JayB

"We learned that in highschool. Maybe while you were taking a class in saluting the flag?" The inclusion of that topic is clearly responsible for the string of scientific triumphs that you and your countrymen have been responsible for. I wasn't aware of the LIA until a couple of years ago, and kind of assumed that most Alpine glaciers had been undergoing a steady decline, with brief periods of relatively insignificant advance and retreat, since about 10,000 years ago.

What do they TEACH in American schools these days "There were no substantial advances from 10,000 until 5,000 years ago. That is when the neoglacial began. The neoglacial has featured advances at 3000 years ago and during the LIA that were nearly identically sized. You can see the moraine overlap from these two by Lyman Glacier for example." "Glacial History According to Madole (1976), during the latter part of the Pleistocene (~1.8 million years before present - 10,000 years BP) and into the early Holocene (10,000 years BP - present) large valley glaciers were present across most of the higher mountain ranges of Colorado and a small icecap even formed in the northwest part of Rocky Mountain National Park. Valley glaciers in the Front Range were typically 15-25 km long and 1-3 km wide, reaching down to elevations of 2440 to 2745 m. These valley glacier ranged in thickness from 215 to 460 m and the longest was 45 km long (located in the valley of the Cache la Poudre River and fed by the icecap). In Colorado only two Pleistocene glacial advances are recorded on the landscape: Bull Lake and Pinedale (The names come from the Wind River Range where these glacial advances were first identified.). The Bull Lake glaciation is thought to have occurred 125,000 to 50,000 years BP, while the Pinedale glaciation has been dated to 29,000 to 7,600 years BP. Generally the Bull Lake glaciation was more extensive. Additionally there have been three small Holocone (10,000 years BP to present) glacial advances termed, from oldest to youngest, Triple Lakes, Audubon, and Arapaho Peak advances. Collectively these minor advances are termed Neoglaciation, and the largest glacier during these advances was only 1.6 km long. The Arapaho Peak advance is local evidence for the Little Ice Age (the popular name for a period of cooling in the northern hemisphere lasting approximately from the 14th to the mid-19th centuries). Most of the glaciers and perennial ice patches in Colorado today are the tattered remnants of these small Little Ice Age glaciers." I'm new to the topic, but the term "advance" in conjunction with the Little Ice Age seems to suggest that glaciers were adding, rather than losing, mass relative to some interval of time that predated the LIA.

I'm holding out for the right severance package.

Ask Mauri Great info at his faculty website about North Cascades Glaciers. Especially the stuff about the chronology of glacier advance and retreat from the time of the continental glaciers onward. I had no idea that the Little Ice Age was a period of significant glacial advance relative to proceding 2,3,4 eons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_Radio Just thought I'd check the Wikipedia entry to get a summary of the manner in which AAR is making use of this "process by which successful businesses adapt to growth and changing opportunities."

I take it you haven't spent much time in the Skokomish flood plains. White, yes. Rich, no. There's lots of rich white people on the coasts, but most of their homes are worth considerably more than what they'd get under the maximum payout, so The Man is actually doing a pretty poor job of taking care of his own, if that's the case.* As far as river floodplains go, being a flyfisherman and a kayaker, I've seen quite a few, and just about the only time you see expensive looking homes along the shore is when there's either elevated land close to the river, or the flows are dam-controlled and the risk of a catastrophic flood is low. Anyhow, back to the original question. Looks like the NFIP was originally passed in 1956 but never funded, then revived 1968 in response to the damage that Hurricane Betsey inflicted on Mississippi.

Does Canadian government provide flood insurance? I know that the Australian government doesn't, and I have no idea why our government thought that this made for sound policy.

This guy has his head up his ass. New home construction is down in most areas and as intrest rates rise people will be sqeezed out ot thier overpriced new homes. Also existing home sales are down. Lots of people could be hurting soon and maybe they will blame Bush..... Still going strong here but for how long? Good question. Superimpose this: Net change in median household income,1999-2005, in 2005 dollars. On This and then factor in this and take a look at the real-estate valuation figures here: Global Insight Q1 '06 House Price Report. Seattle 34.1% Overvalued Somewhere there's a chart that shows the percentage of all private sector jobs created since 2001, and real-estate, construction, mortgage-lending, etc adds up to a significant percentage - like a third or higher - since '01. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that increased capital spending by corporations will help out on the jobs front and mitigate the impact of the slowing housing market, but if domestic consumption goes down then the only reason for them increase capital spending and hire more folks will be to sell things to consumers abroad. Thankfully for Seattle, most of the major industries seem to be in reasonably good shape, so hopefully the impact of an RE slowdown will be muted by positive developments elsewhere. For places like Phoenix and South Florida, the future looks a bit rougher.

I think that this is the same guy. Someone que theme from "South Park - Bigger, Longer, & Uncut" Canadians Fault U.S. for Its Role in Torture Case Sign In to E-Mail This Print Reprints Save By IAN AUSTEN Published: September 19, 2006 OTTAWA, Sept. 18 — A government commission on Monday exonerated a Canadian computer engineer of any ties to terrorism and issued a scathing report that faulted Canada and the United States for his deportation four years ago to Syria, where he was imprisoned and tortured. The report on the engineer, Maher Arar, said American officials had apparently acted on inaccurate information from Canadian investigators and then misled Canadian authorities about their plans for Mr. Arar before transporting him to Syria. “I am able to say categorically that there is no evidence to indicate that Mr. Arar has committed any offense or that his activities constituted a threat to the security of Canada,” Justice Dennis R. O’Connor, head of the commission, said at a news conference. The report’s findings could reverberate heavily through the leadership of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which handled the initial intelligence on Mr. Arar that led security officials in both Canada and the United States to assume he was a suspected Al Qaeda terrorist. "

"Yeah, and I'd like to hear the Pope say, "Gee, sorry to the millions of women* burned at the stake, treated like second class citizens, and blamed for the fall of man. We didn't really mean any harm..." If you want to go back to the pre-reformation days when assesing the moral standing of various actors in the present, you should also ask the citizens of Greater Scandanavia to collectively apologize for the marauding, raping, and pillaging that they visited on coastal Europe. Sure they'll say they've changed, that was hundreds of years ago, and there's little to nothing left of those tendencies evident in their societies anymore, but I hope you won't let them off the hook with that kind-of half-assed excusemongering. *Where'd you get this number. It's not that I don't think that the Catholic Church has anything to answer for, but this seems just a touch high.

The response from the more vocal and demonstrative adherents of that religion have certainly shown how far off the mark such commentary was. Maybe - more than anything else - they just love irony. I'm just waiting for the day when there's a group of guys massed in the street, all set to chant and burn effigies, when all of a sudden the organizer says "Hey - uh - sorry to dissapoint everyone, but we've consulted the almighty himself and he informed us that actually, unlike the cartoon episode, which seriously pissed him off - this one is just way to trivial to get upset about. He said he'd get back to us if anything came up though, so keep the effigies handy and don't forget those slogans."

Good link for those interested in the dissapearance of the Colorado Glaciers. http://glaciers.pdx.edu/gdb/maps/all.php?page=co_glaciers.html

Hey Rad: If you read through this link: http://www.nichols.edu/departments/glacier/globalwarming.html you'll probably have your answer. Fascinating stuff. After reading through some of the material there, I couldn't help but conclude that the that factors driving glacial retreat are quite a bit more complicated, and have a much longer chronology than most of the folks who have been posting to this thread are aware of.

Come one now Fern. I haven't yet been able to bore a canyon through hundreds of feet of granite by urinating on top of a batholith, but rivers seem to do a pretty good job of it. Pommes and Oranges, eh. I have no idea if CBS is correct or not, but I suspect that if you were to magically transplant a patch of chicken-head laden granite underneath the carbon glacier and then extract it 50 years later, the said chickenheads would be long gone.

0 = Consistently Lowest Prices 100 = Consistently Highest Prices. My hunch is that the prices that you paid were the result of normal seasonal changes in demand, normal tightness in refining capacity with respect to the mandated seasonal blends combined with the abrupt changeover from MBTA to ethanol, higher global demand, and abnormally high geopolitical and atmospheric risk premiums to elevate gas prices this summer. I've never run a gas station, and don't know anyone who has, but I suspect that they price the fuel that they sell based on what they expect to have to pay to refill their tanks, not so much what they paid for the gas that's in them. With oil supplies tight, the ethanol-conversion induced megacluster, super-tight refining capacity (we actually import quite a bit of our gasoline from Europe and elsewhere to meet demand), and everyone bracing for the possible impact of a bad hurricane season in the gulf and supply disruptions originating from within Iran, Venezuela, or elsewshere - I was kind of surprised that prices didn't hit $4 a gallon. Now that demand is abating due to normal seasonal declines and the big political/atmospheric disasters failed to materialize, I'm not surpised that prices are falling off a cliff. Another factor that might be having an impact is people accepting that high fuel prices are more than a momentary blip, and they are making some lifestyle changes to reduce their consumption a bit. Anyhow - if you want the real low-down, I'm sure that our resident Socialist Day Trader (aka fear_and_greed) has been feverishly following the petro-markets while putting together a trading strategy that will help him profit from the inevitable decline and collapse of global capitalism, so maybe he'll chime in if he's already taken his profits.

Yes- actually. Just define your benchmarks. How much of an increase, over what period of time would vindicate your conspiratorial mutterings. Pretty easy to track things here: http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/

I think the reality is that human beings are going to continue to burn fossil fuels until they become so scarce and expensive that there no alternative but to use something else, and that whatever consequences this process will bring about are a foregone conclusion.

Any route that people generally rope-up for that includes a sit-start and/or holds/features that are "off" = a contrived route.

I'm not sure why you thought of me, as the thing that amazes me the most about the public's response to gasoline prices is the fact that people are positively - stunned - when prices increase as supply diminishes relative to demand. Miles driven per-capita increase in the spring, decline in the fall. Happens every year. Toss in some formulation changes that put a minor dent in refineries' ability to deliver fuel that satisfies local regulatory requirements, and you tighten things still further. Happens every year, but the moronosphere reacts with disbelief and outrage, and in the case of the recent price declines, no small number of conspiracy theories. There was also the fact that there was quite a significant geopolitical and climatological risk premium built into this summers prices, not to mention the impact of the massive ethanol-subsidy-cluster/MBTA-phaseout that both the refining industry and the ethanol producers were suprisingly ill-prepared for. The only thing that surprised me was that prices didn't go higher. FWIW every country in the world pays the same price for the same grade of crude, and the gas-price differential simply reflects additional taxes in the case of higher prices, or lower taxes and/or subsidies in the case of lower prices. Anyhow - I am hoping that the same masterminds that have uncovered the great gas-price lowering conspiracy can shed some light on the neocon conspiracy that makes the price of air-conditioning units, shorts, and beach-houses rise in the summer, and the price of warm-coats, lift-tickets, and ski-equipment rise in the winter.

I think I saw something like this somewhere else, but I was curious as to what other traits that people could identify that would fit a big chunk of the climbing public. I figured that this poll would help get things started.

Not sure if I can help with the names, but congratulations and best wishes for a healthy Mom/baby-girl.

Good rec on 13&God.

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Hey - thanks for the response. That's great information about stuff that I've been curious about for a while. I'm thinking of some point after the last of the continental glaciers in North America were well and truly gone - so probably in the last 10,000 years or so. Also - is there anything like a "History of North American Glaciers" that summarizes what's gone on from the time when the continental glaciers were retreating to the present? I'm especially interested in what the chronology of glacial advance/retreat looks like in the Colorado Rockies and other continental ranges where the glaciers are long gone. Any idea when the last of the major glaciers in Colorado dissappeared?