Fairweather

http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/biden1.htm?sid=google&t=obama-biden

Hmmm...that sounds familiar. Care to take a guess?

I've acknowledged it many times if you and Matt have been paying attention. What I'm saying is that I'm willing to keep doing that as opposed to the socialist model the two of you seem to crave. Matt; re read your exchange with JayB. You clearly expressed a desire to see a government paid and government run health care system. Please explain how that is not socialist. It clearly is. And Matt: I stopped reading most of your links after it was exposed that you like to recommend books which you have not even read.

Biden is very articulate and clean.

Not biting, Matt. You can editorialize until you actually believe your own tripe--or what Dave Ross told you was true. Doesn't make it so. The government-controlled, single-pay health care you have promoted (in your conversation with JayB) is socialism by any definition.

Yes, if it is the RIGHT thing to do and if it might actually SAVE US MONEY, why not? "But it's NOT socialism!"

Yes, if it is the RIGHT thing to do and if it might actually SAVE US MONEY, why not? What does "trouble paying their bills" mean? Doesn't sound very scientific. I had trouble paying my Comcast bill this month. Will America please help!

Your punk made a pretty good point here. Not at all. I'll bet 79 million Americans have trouble paying their bills period. Should we all chip in?

Glassgow's just a punk.

Radon aside, you should still vent your foundation to allow the passage of sewer gas should any of your drain pipes ever rust through. Also, I'm not sure you can ever resell the home without proper venting of the crawlspace. (?)

Everyone must have equally shitty health care. All or none!!

You're full of shit. "Get informed" is a clarion call of left-wingers who, despite their own oft-lacking credentials wish to leave the impression that only they posses the mental savvy necessary to cast a vote. I just love libs who try to pass themselves off as something they are not. Grow a pair.

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Sammy - Those are the north and main Peaks of Chimney Rock with part of the Overcoat Glacier below. Rob - wait for the mosquitoes to die. This trip tied for worst swarm ever...with the week I spent once in Wrangell St. Elias. They actually mocked my Deet!

Trip: Alpine Lakes High Route - Date: 8/17-18/2008 Trip Report: Greg and I stashed mountain bikes at the W Fork Foss River trailhead and then drove back to the East Fork trailhead and began the 8 mile march into Necklace Valley. Fairweather We proceeded on and up to Tank Lakes where we set up camp in beautiful rock gardens, groves of alpine fir, and threatening skies. The mosquitoes were horrible, but the views were stunning. Chimney Rock The BetaLight That night around 11pm the fun began. We awoke to flashes of lightning--at about 10 second intervals--and the thunder was coming closer and closer. When the time between flash and roar hit about two seconds we decided that sleeping in a tent supported by two aluminum ski poles on a ridge was a bad idea, so we collapsed the tent, threw the poles down the ridge, and slept under the rain fly in a downpour wondering how many days it would take the authorities to find our smoldering corpses. The storm passed at about 3am and we got up at 7 to sunny, but threatening skies. We decided to stick to the plan and headed off along the ridge to Iron Cap notch and down the gully about 2/3 the way to Otter Lake. Chimney and Overcoat Looked like some big slides came down this past season. It began to rain hard as we traveled across talus and through forest to Azurite Lake and the wet, moss-covered "key ledge". Some easy 4th class scrambling and we were on our way up to yet another notch that overlooked Lake Angeline. Blessed are the cairn makers. Azure Lakes were spectacular--even in the rain--and we continued on to Chetwoot and Little Chetwoot Lakes, then up and along the torturous crest that divides Big Heart Lake and Lake Angeline. Greg. The outlet to Big Heart Lake. We picked up the West Fork Foss River trail and hiked out arriving back at our bikes just before total dark. About 21 miles total, 7300' elevation gain/loss.

Classic lib arrogance on display.

We camped at Tank Lakes Sunday night and had a wild electric show as well. We were worried enough that we took down the two aluminum ski poles holding up our Betalight tent, tossed them over the ridge, and slept under the tarp for most of the night. Finished the Alpine Lakes Traverse in a downpour yesterday.

Sounds like you're getting nervous. Rossi is going to win in a landslide. Were you whites-only sorority sisters with Gregoire?

You're suck a fucking geek.

Regardless of federal strings, public education is still very much under state and local control. Very different from the centralized health care proposals you seem so fond of that aren't "actually" socialism.

Hmm. Seemed like you were arguing that KK should, for the sake of logical consistency, fear the power wielded by corporations as much as feared the power of government. In it's simplest form, my question about your stance on "single-payor" healthcare comes down to this: Do you want the government to just pay for healthcare, or both pay for and control the its distribution down to the individual level? The two are not synonymous. There are many mechanisms by which the state could provide funding for healthcare without the state acting as the sole administrator of the funds. My hunch is that if, say, the government used a system of vouchers/subsidies/tax-credits that enabled everyone to afford health-care, but left control of these funds in the hands of individuals, this would not satisfy you, even though this would involve a single entity essentially paying for all health-care expenditures in the country. Keep the control of the money in the hands of the state, rather than individuals, and I suspect that the system would be rather more to your liking, but feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood you. Matt likes to mock those who call that scheme 'socialized medicine', but that's exactly what it is. I think he's in denial about his beliefs.

What's up with tax-free medical savings accounts? Deducted in installments from your paycheck pre-tax voluntarily, but if you don't use any/all of it by the end of the year, the government takes it everything that remains! WTF?