Fairweather

So, you vote Democrat because of the great job LBJ and McNamara did in Vietnam? yes, i do. do you remember what his opponent, goldwater, wanted in south-east asia instead? do you remember his presidency, while sadly and in shakespearan fashion undone by the flaw of vietnam, also brought us the great society and civil rights acts? that vietnam (cuba & iran, too) itself had its beginning in eisenhower and the insanity mccarthy unleashed? i do agree, both american political idealogies are heavy on global military domination, but, as jim points out, there is a difference in how brutal and heavy-handed republican administrations tend towards. Wow, gotta love the way libtards are willing to overlook a whole lotta death from above--as long as Dear Leader adheres to certain socialist tenets here at home. FDR's firebombing of city after city? No problem! He brought us Social Security and codified organized labor! LBJ's radical escalation in Vietnam? No problem! He brought us the (so-called) Great Society! As for your Ike revisionism, well, I'm speechless (for once). If you really like, we can trace Vietnam all the way back to Woodrow Wilson's racist refusal to meet the young Ambassador Ho Chi Min at Versailles. No, Ivan, the blame for Vietnam lies squarely at the feet of LBJ (and Strange). Kennedy would have never escalated it to the level it ended up at. Coincidentally, he was the last decent Democrat this country had.

This is why we don't want our doctors to be owned and paid by bureaucrats. Down here.

So, you vote Democrat because of the great job LBJ and McNamara did in Vietnam?

You mean the war that Senator Hillary voted for? Edit: Can you define "cabal?"

Smarter than Hillary? Yes. Less corrupt than Hillary? Yes. But then, who isn't? More articulate than Hillary? Yes. (This requirement seems to be a libtard must.) Less wealthy than Hillary? Yes. (Hillary is, like, in the top 1% of the top 1%) Do you hate her because she speaks fluent Russian? Because she holds a doctorate? Or for some "other reason."

Wasn't Colin Powell SOS when Iraq began? Anyway, who the f@#$% is this O'malley guy?

I think you're all really interested--cuz as long as she speaks the language of libtardism, it doesn't matter one shit to the lot of you if she's part of the most corrupt political machine D.C. has seen since U.S. Grant. Which she most definitely is. Now we know why she had her own email server.

Like Condoleeza Rice? Like Carly Fiorina?

Bullshit. The proliferation of paramilitary federal SWAT teams inevitably brings abuses that have nothing to do with either drugs or terrorism. Many of the raids they conduct are against harmless, often innocent, Americans who typically are accused of non-violent civil or administrative violations. . . . a SWAT team from the Food and Drug Administration raided the farm of Dan Allgyer of Lancaster, Pa. His crime was shipping unpasteurized milk across state lines to a cooperative of young women with children in Washington, D.C., called Grass Fed on the Hill. Raw milk can be sold in Pennsylvania, but it is illegal to transport it across state lines. The raid forced Allgyer to close down his business.

Geeeeezalouisedoesn'tthissitehaveatenmegabytelimit?

Shur, and maybe you-all can nominate someone without all the class-warfare rhetoric and dicktater tendencies? Someone with actual leadership experience? Like, one of them uniters? You already know my pick.

Looks like some animals are more corrupt than others: Slate "As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well. And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock. At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show."

Oh yeh, and repeal that bullshit law where the police get to keep what they seize.

Probably one place where libtards and conservatards agree. Police need to be demilitarized. Take away all their tactical looking shit. Black beanies, parachute cord rifle slings, dark sunglasses, cammo. (Why do they need cammo in an urban or suburban setting anyhow?) Take away their armored vehicles. Let them keep revolvers. Maybe shotguns too. With wood stocks. Bicycles are a plus. Good way to meet the folks you serve.

Nice trip! I used to look at Gardner across the Methow Valley from Studhorse Mountain and wonder what it was like up there.

Again, your facts are just plain wrong. (No surprise by now.) The Democrats had a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate when the cloture vote was taken to move the ACA forward on Christmas Eve, 2009. Buck, you really need to reassess your information diet. Maybe mix in a little FOX or CBS with your Huff, MSNBC, Mother Jones? Just a thought. Sorry, but you really are an idiot.

Gotta give it to you Buck, the conspiracy angle is always entertaining for the first ten or twenty seconds. Unfortunately, I find it getting more and more difficult to engage 9/11 nutjob-truther types like you. In any event, I'm sure the populist messages already frothing up from the political left pre-2016 will find fertile soil in that soft noggin of yours. Better ignore Rachael for now, and stick to those ADD-type tasks that I'm sure you're really good at.

Obama and his Dems simply stole some 700Bn from Medicare and gave it to a more reliable constituency. Again, Ivan, there was no compromise. This is a fantasy that you choose to believe. This whole thing was rammed down our throats; sold on lies. Hillarycare would have been an even bigger debacle--but it never had any chance of passage. Zero. I have no doubt that the left considers Obamacare an incremental step back toward this 1993 would-be disaster. In fact, I think you've even admitted as much here. And look at the abortion of a bill you Dems came up with. You alone. Gut Obamacare. Gut the old system too. Replace it with fee for service and catastrophic coverage options.

And yet, it keeps. on. going. Sadly, some of the libtards here never had 100 points to lose.

Umm, methinks your recollection of history is kinda fuzzy math there, Ivan. There was no compromise. Dems had most of the votes--and lied to get the last few they needed. Frankly, I'd love to keep the parts you mentioned re dropped coverage, pre-existing, refusal to pay, etc. A lot of that last bit is still going on. Admittedly, the old status quo was never free market either. If only you libtards would just stick to regulating--and would stop trying to grab hold of the steering wheel.

Yep. Not fit to govern. Corruption is boring when itza D.

The coolest feature of Obamacare is the increasing fine you will get if you don't buy insurance. I am hoping something similar is passed for healthy food and proper housing. I mean, if an ordinary Joe/Jane can't afford to live on the lake, well, hey, they should be made to pay! Even if they have no money, you see. Of course, the stupid people will never fall for this--so we're gonna have to lie to get it passed. And I mean lie, like, big time. And while we're at it, let's see if we can collapse the whole system with a few dozen million illegals...

The sad thing is that everyone knew State Auditor Troy Kelly was dirty before he was elected. Sadder still, the libtard zombie hordes who voted him into office simply because he had a "D" next to his name. You libturds aren't fit to govern.

Someday, when I hang up my climbing gear, I hope to point my Zuki DR650 south and head for Punta Arenas.

Their second series, "Long Way Down" was a lot better. Scotland to South Africa. Ethiopa looks really cool--Namibia too.