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grivel compact third is a nice solid piece... also there are some new compact tools 45 or 50 cm long that have hammers, like the DMM tool they are discontinuing... and SMC still makes a north wall hammer in a traditional axe dimensions as per the above poster. compact piton tool with ice pick, grivel compact third, for old schoolers in knickers and wool sweaters, the SMC and there's a few in between, as mentioned above...

they need to get a bunch of traps and make a coat out of those weasels! mmm, muskrat stew.... got a lot of of beavertail soup when i was younger, helped develop my taste for beaver as an adult... setting traps and working a trapline is fun and interesting work I reccommend any try but very few ever will. "Good man in the woods" great film, hard to find, about the last of the old time trappers and woodsmen.... there are still fellas with the same hard man status as trappers, russian smoke jumpers are a very hardy lot as well.... a knife, a flint, vodka is all these guys need to survive until the tobacco runs out... then things get desperate. i like some of the actions of the ELF and the EDL myself.... i don't subscribe or endorse arson, but i do laugh and point at every H2 i see around town. always. Oh, and the work of the "Peoples' Front of Judea" and big nose...

..but no one can buy the vasque boots.... their super duper new boots have had so many production problems, these have been pushed back and pushed back, Nov1 is the new 'expected ship' date, but manufacturers have a way of being incorrect about these. I just asked a major buyer yesterday about these, and that's the lowdown vasques= UNAVAILABLE I wouldn't even delude yourself that the vasques are the way to go because you can't even buy them right now and may not be able to until spring 2004

let me check street names...it was near a bunch of closed down mine shafts directly south from downtown ishpeming, up on the first ridge dere..

...just checked in yooper time and yes, a half an inch today on raised surfaces at lake level and 4-6 inland and up grade... the snowy season begins in da yoop once again... I'd be out skiing at the park in ishpeming right now...

i just checked in about the vasques, and it's true, these won't be shipped to stores until nov 1 at the earliest.... the buyer thinks that means yet another delay, probably into january..... just like G3 skins last year...

suicide bowl is the place! that was fantastic! some of the hills, yowsa... I also liked the hill right in town there at ishpeming, i cannot remember the name of it but it was like, ten blocks from downtown? I used to go there when i worked in Ishpeming in 1990 and ski at lunch. nothing like the Congress lounge and the pizza there, oh my gosh....

Yoopers tend to drinkin ,ya, songs 'bout beer, dontchyaknow? get me another kugel, eh? drinkin the beers and eatin pasties out at camp before a sauna den a roll in da snow dere before bedtime. whos a gonna chop da wood for da winter, eh? So, Aino and Toivo, they go to the saw shop in Tapiola to get a new saw. "Ya, ya, we need da saw, to cut da wood for da winter." Saw salesman says, "This new saw here, it'll cut you 10 cords of wood a day. 18 inch blade, 200cc..." Aino and Toivo look at each other, nodding and say, "Ya, we take da saw. We need to cut da wood for da winter." Salesman rings them up and forgets all about it until a week later, when Aino and Toivo return to the saw shop with the saw, mad as hell. "Ya Ya, we take the saw to cut da wood dere," Aino angrily explains, "and you sa da saw it cut ten cord of wood a day. We hadna been able to cut a but a half a cord of wood all week!" The saw salesman says, "Hey that's real strange. Let's take the saw out back to the woodshed, see how it works." He leads the brothers back to the back of the saw shop, takes a good grab of the starter cord, and gives a swift pull. The saw starts right up with a "brwapp, brrapppp." noise. Aino and Toivo jump back six feet, totally spooked. "Ya, ya, what is da noise dere?" crazy yoopers!

no, trask, i disagree. the government has all sorts of compelling reasons to want to know ALL about you, even the least consequential among us. they keep track of EVERYONE already and they have for years. they want to know: how old you are, how much money you make, how much you pay in taxes, how many kids you have, what your real estate and automobile is worth. they want to know if you have a boat or a car, and if you own any guns. they certainely like to know what political affiliation you are, and who you associate with in church or social dealings that involve financial transactions or gifts to charity. they keep track of what your criminal history is and if you have up to date vechicle licenses and any tickets you might still need to pay on. they like to keep track of if you are wanted or suspected of any criminal activities.... and this is where the recent revisions to federal judicial policy regarding the actions of law enforcement, there is part of the failings of the patriot act... EVERYONE here legally is in NCIC computers and IRS databases and the now that the Homeland Security Agency is running the National Parks, boy can I feel more secure from terrorists when I'm out climbing in the North Cascades! Whew, big relief... Geordie is up there fending off terrorists up on Sahale Arm almost daily, i hear...

suicide bowl and Tapiola, you got me LOL ROFL Sisu, you're flippin hilarious, lets give a big cheer out for heikki lunta, ullr, skadi, and sondre nordheim. Who's been Atlantic mine, eh? Let's go ski the hills by copper harbor you know, sisu, one time my buddy and me, we went into the huron mountians in the dead of a march winter via mulligan plains south of the yellow dog...took two weeks to wind up at the first paved road east of L'anse. we had a great trip on a cross country oddessy across the depths of the UP that was about ninety miles all told... man, those industrialist bastards that set up the huron mountain club have got it CHOICE!!! I've messed around up there a lot, we would take mountain bikes thru deep abandonded logging track into the HMC also some legitimate events and also my buddy tony was one of the boatmakers up there as well as me having lived on the yellowdog on the big bay highway as well as worked at bay cliff one summer... that was just five miles from the huron mountain club and i spent plenty of my off time sneaking into the granite cliffs and huge virgin pine forests up there and the beautiful alpine lakes tucked amidst deep glacially polished quartz gneiss and granite... love it up there... sisu we will go on a trip this october if the conditions are right.

those "mixed lines" in the pictures look pretty dry! and isn't mixed an unfavorable aspect of alpine, not some bouldering sporto clusterfawk? Verglas is no ones friend!

hey sisu, i have a perfect equasion for freshies by halloween that usually works. it totally depends on a good set of northern low pressure cells moving across the region and a certain nightime temperature range... i am not going to post the factors here but will call you with the details. usually you can drive the car right to the snow if things are favorable...

the patriot act is unconstituentally broad and being used to prosecute and investigate scores of americans that have nothing to do with terrorism, jay...it was reported in the sunday newspaper, or in the last couple of weeks, anyway. it was a national AP stringer column that ran top left anchor above the fold on page one of the seattle times- top left above the fold is a spot reserved for real news. the article went on to expose the many ways and many times the federales have been using changes in LEO activity due to the patriot act.. and bug, and fairweather, you are both correct on many points. the government is filled with corrupt individuals on both sides of the aisle, and everyone sucks big corporate horsek. there is difficulty distinguishing between donkeys and elephants, however. A friend of mine calls them "demopublicans" i will continue to assert the current administration is selling the american people the biggest teapot dome they could dream up, and are commiting treasonable actions against the US that need to be spoken out against- repeal the clean air act? dismantle the EPA? run a war for personal profit? Bankrupt america's pension funds? run the energy grid and make america bleed? refuse to cooperate with government investigations into energy policy? haliburton=7 billion and counting from the war in uncompetitive contracts and thumbing our nose at the UN, then grovel back 6 months later... we are the inept, sophmoric laughingstocks of global diplomacy, What is wrong here in america? it is the white house administration commiting treasonable actions against the american people everyday.

and, sorry, bug, that you don't understand american political division of state or representation... hmm, a seperation of powers, and checks and balances, were always extremely important in american politics since the 1780's... the post patriot act era is distinctively NOT so...

fairweather, and the diferences between WWII and nowadays is a world apart... the administration is so much more blatant nowadays about how they are going to screw the public... im still disgusted by our current leaders...

thats okay trask, i've learned not to take your posts personally... but the current administration is so reprehensible, when this time period is viewed historically, america is going to be the loser in this scenario... but Haliburton is going to get rich, regardless! when my buddy bob and i deconstructed the post WWII efforts, we came up with some good names... dupont, goodyear rubber, boeing, standard oil...

trask, you are correct in that... but when it comes to abandoning CIA non military combatants in hot zones, NOT. they didn't even leave that jessica chick, and she was only a cook... somebody in the far greasier world of intelligence gathering, actually, the CIA will still try to pull if its possible without a stinkbomb, but its the non us interests that are far more expendible. and my longtime (20+ years) friend Pryscilla is overseas right now, doing exactly that... she's been involved in "nuclear disposal" since the eighties, she is somewhere acting as a commercial businesswoman with legitimate interests at stake, but largely doing more nefarious things... don't tell me i'm pulling this stuff out of a book...

I'm not talking about the world of movies, trask... the americans are attempted to be saved at all costs, none of the typical movie bullshit about 'abandonded military special ops', that's not how it works. I'm talking about guys who live in niger, or uganda, or poland, or cheznya, that the CIA develops as spys, sources or passers, people who simply provide classified documents to CIA... these people are already considered floor shavings and designed to be expendible... if the agency can pin some of their ops on a patsy, so much the better FEFEA

why do you guys all want to be talking on your phones when you are out in the mountains? Is it so you can call your friends and go "can you hear me now?" like a bunch of college freshmen? i know about emergencies in the mountains, and a cell phone is a very very unreliable piece of rescue equipment. ten years ago cell phones weighed about two pounds and no one was lugging those POS up in the hills... did you all used to talk about optimizing your CB radio sets or a ham radio set you would lug to the top of glacier peak if it was stomy out? I'm really taken aback at the amounts of interest in carrying and using cellphones in the mountains- are jon and timmy hosting mountaineers first aid and safety discussions in here now? Am i still posting to cascadeclimbers.com? "i had my cell phone up on glacier peak, and it got stormy, and we got scared, so i called my mommy." what a seriously disgusting thread this is, it's really got me thinking about all the mounties groups i see out in the hills asking me if i've got a cell phone... I sometimes think they are needing to call for route beta (gator at rainier tells me they get those calls increasingly every year...."this frostbite ridge, it really is a bit more difficult than we thought... we're at some ice cliffs and rock pinnacles, can you suggest which way we go?"...and calls like"this weather is bad, we're all hunkered down at camp, but can you send up a rescue party?" are frequently fielded by park rangers)

sorry fairweather, you are right. forgien nationals who do not hold the values of america dear to their hears cannot, by nature, engage in treason....treason is committed by american citizens against the country, and in turn we, the people, and i will continue to attest that the actions of the bush administration are far more treasonable actions than hijacking planes or giving blowjobs in niger.... which is what a wife of a diplomat that is information gathering in a country like niger for the CIA would be doing at cocktail parties and society mixers, if she was a GOOD female inteligence operative... she would be the gladhandler, coaxing info out of drunken and compromised heads of state and influential individuals.... and forgien agents are abandoned by the CIA.... it is extremely rare that an agent will provide enough info the CIA will value their lifes highly enough to save them and spirit them out of a country to safety elsewhere. The CIA just drops em, raids the front organizations bank accounts, gets the americans out lickety split, and doesn't event leave the forgien agent an exit strategy... sometimes the CIA even sets them up to appear to be a handler instead of an agent... life is rough, boys... fuck em, fuck em all is a common CIA directive, FEFEA

wait, you mean the bush administration lies to the public about its vested interests? you mean, either wartime or energy policy, the white house is not being ethical? good thing someone like halburton oilfield services is getting rich from the war effort from 7 BILLION dollars in uncompetitive contracts, and that freaky 'energy crisis' controlled, largely, from the Texas energy grid.... i'd hate to come of sounding conspiratorial, but the white house is sleeping with big business now, more than ever they're not even ashamed about their massive sleepovers- IE Cheney REFUSING to turn over his records on meeting with the Enron officials who helped draft the National Energy Policy before the big brown out and widespread pension fund collapse...two unrelated incidents, but both suspect I have never felt so betrayed as an American. TheWhite House's actions against the american people are far worst treason than any 20 radical islamic terrorists committed with four planes, what the administration is doing affects far, far more people in far more insidious, negative ways... NO MORE BUSH! sorry ladies, he's a dick in disguise, just like the VP, the man behind the curtain, pulling all the strings.

censorship is an indicator, showcasing the decline of democracy within organizations....let the most vocal censor the dissident... you bunch of commies! wait, hold on a sec...still working on the iraq=halburton profits equasion to make sense...

...sometimes it's nice to be chained to the desk, you should see my editorial assistant! plus the beers add some inducment to office "work" Emergency high rise fire escape.

no, nobody should go out skiing on the south side of glacier peak it's WAY TOO FAR to haul in your skis, like fifteen miles, and why would anyone want to do that if anyone wants to do that after the next cool storm system count me in, wait, no, out wait, all that terrain up there SUCKS don't go...

tying me to my desk this weekend so i can meet a deadline, instead of climbing with it!! DAMN, i hope no one else anwsers this till monday or i'm not the only sucka working too much-