Peter_Puget

Probably 4/15 - but why don't you (CBS) call him to verify?

That is just silliness J_B. By The way what was the level of union employment back when Henry Ford first began his production line? Remember those illegal aliens hired by Walmart? Where they paid above or below minimum wage? As I said your comments are merely silliness. However they are the kind of silliness that would tend to reduce us all to poverty.

Street Waves – Pere Ubu (27 years old so it just sneaks in under the dateline.) LTIA IV – King Crimson

Access Restrictions: Lifted from the Access Fund site – Midnight and Noontime Rocks and Vicinity: Okanogan-Wenatchee National Fores Closed to entry April 1 to July 31 to Protect Nesting Raptors. Raptors have been observed on and between Midnight and Noontime Rocks. During the nesting period, the site will be monitored and if conditions warrant, some restrictions may be lifted. Contact: Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forests, Lake Wenatchee and Leavenworth Ranger Districts 509/548-6977. Beacon Rock State Park Restriction affects the south face of Beacon Rock and is in effect from Feb. 1 - July 15. Contact: Ranger - State Park Manager Tel: 509.427.8265. Tieton River - Oakcreek Wildlife Recreation Area. Royal Columns & Tim Pond Wall. Restriction runs from Feb. 1 through July 31. Contact: John Mcgowan - Area Manager Tel: 509.653.2390.

Here is a fun exercise: find something written about corporate downsizing and then replace the word downsizing with outsourcing – still makes sense doesn’t it? To answer Jim the problem is that protectionism will only screw-up all of us. I meant to look for the relevant data for ”net outsourcing”( ie the number of jobs loss to foreign nations less the number of jobs created by foreign investment.) I think that net loss peaked in the early 80s. Check out this BLS Report: BLS Free Minds, Free Markets PP

Nope me!

Link' More reason to vote Bush even if you think he is the anti-christ. PP

FYI Here is an example of a double standard: The Hollywood elite saying how bad the black listing was of communists during the cold war and the same elites threatened blacklisitng of Mel Gibson. Read Entertainment Weekly 2/17 edition or NYT Magazine. Sad but typical liberal behavior.

precisely, and let's not discuss the bush administration squeezing the aristide government. charges have repeatedly been made by members of congress about noriega's ingerence in haiti's affairs, but we would not read about it in Faux News. also they won't let the UN handle it because it's our backyard. the french have already said they were ready to move in under UN mandate. No oil is why France is willing to move. Ignorance - exactly.

You keep saying that Dru but they include lots of new routes that were never in the Campbell guide.

You might glance at the Select Guide if you have longer climbs in mind as it has better topos. Esp of the Apron area. PP

Amazing

It depends fully on if you have done that approach before. I started up it once just to check it out and figured it was not worth the effort and went swimming instead. I am not sure if you plan to spend the night on Big Sandy or not? In any case the bottom pitches are very straight forward and easy. The first one or two might be worth fixing but I wouldn't fix more than that. If your mind was set on a bivi you might consider a bivi lower on the route. Big Sandy smelled really bad when I was there and the ledge on pitch 11 had excretions from all human orifices - male and female. I was grossed out and glad I was passing thru. Other people planned on sleeping at those locations. I heard that the night beofre we started seven people were on Big Sandy. Of course the view from Big Sandy can't be beat.

Link US senators' personal stock portfolios outperformed the market by an average of 12 per cent a year in the five years to 1998, according to a new study. "The results clearly support the notion that members of the Senate trade with a substantial informational advantage over ordinary investors," says the author of the report, Professor Alan Ziobrowski of the Robinson College of Business at Georgia State University. He admits to being "very surprised" by his findings, which were based on 6,000 financial disclosure filings and are due to be published in the Journal of Financial and Quantitative Analysis. "The results suggest that senators knew when to buy their common stocks and when to sell." First-time Senators did especially well, with their stocks outperforming by 20 per cent a year on average - a result that very few professional fund managers would be able to achieve. "It could be argued that the junior senators most recently came out of private industry, so may have better connections. Seniority was definitely a factor in returns," says Prof Ziobrowski. There was no difference in performance between Democrats and Republicans. A separate study in 2000, covering 66,465 US households from 1991 to 1996 showed that the average household's portfolio underperformed the market by 1.44 per cent a year, on average. Corporate insiders (defined as senior executives) usually outperform by about 5 per cent. The Ziobrowski study notes that the politicians' timing of transactions is uncanny. Most stocks bought by senators had shown little movement before the purchase. But after the stock was bought, it outperformed the market by 28.6 per cent on average in the following calender year. Returns on sell transactions are equally intriguing. Stocks sold by senators performed in line with the market the year following the sale. When adjusted by the size of stocks, the total portfolio returns outperformed by 12 per cent a year on average. The study used a total market index as the benchmark for comparison. The study took eight years to complete because there was no database of information and the documents had to be gathered and examined manually. Stocks held in blind trusts are not included in the disclosure documents.

I am educated enough to believe this is not correct but I am willing to entertain the possibilty I may be incorrect. Source please. As far a education I remember my father telling me a story about a friend of his from Norway who learned the first year of calc and physic while in high school. My fatehr remembers being jealous of that fact. The twister is this guy was in high school during WW2! He moved to the US PP

Things aren't so bad---- I forgot where I saw this calculation done but it is interesting: Let's look at some of the best jobs that have been lost to robots or foreigners. In 1913, Henry Ford instituted the $5 day for a 9 hour shift. These jobs were hard assembly line positions, but were extremely desirable work. With changes in technology, these jobs were lost. For their day, these jobs earned double the average manufacturing wage. But they are nothing special to speak of in today's terms. Deflating the $5 a day wage by the CPI-U Ford's $5 a day is a wage of 5*(184/9.9)=$93 per day in 2003 dollars, or $10.35 per hour. The average Wal-Mart employee working in the grocery section--by some cc.com posters' accounts, some of the WORST JOBS EVER--makes about $10 an hour not including benefits. So some of the lowest-skilled service industry workers today are making as much or more than the best technically-skilled assembly line workers of Henry Ford's day. And that's because of outsourcing. Forgot were I read this but it is interesting too - Toyota plant employees are more productive in the US than in Japan - same with at least one of the German auto manufacturers. One more thing to think about – In 1997 about 100,000 educated people left Canada for the US. Average income $100k, discount rate 5%, PV income 2 million. Total gift to the US $200 billion! Thanks Canada!

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I reread the intitial post and realized my advice sucked. The bug rules cragging but if you have a lot of stuff and doing raps it's not the device I would pick.

In your third paragraph you are simply confusing me. But your final sentence is somewhat close to stumbling into the truth. Liberals throughout the 20th century have been quite reluctant to see the true effects of communist ideology. I believe more Ukrainians were killed in the “terror” famines than Jews were killed by the Germans. The same is probably true with regard to the great leap forward/Cultural revolution in China. Both used crass political power to reduce political dissent. Both were the darlings of liberal chic. The NYT earned a Pulitzer prize on stories about the Soviet Union under Stalin that have now been admitted by all parties were full of outright lies. 40 years later Mao shirts were the rage. (Heck read the Nation in the 50s! For more liberal rubber stamping to the Soviet Union.) ANother fave example of the same phenomenon is that case of Reinaldo Arenas a Cuban writer. In his autobiography he writes painfully of how the liberal Intellectual elite thought him wonderful when his writings were smuggled out of Cuba but as soon as he was in America they denounced him almost as a fake when he continued to speak out against Fidel's repression. The list can go on forever. By the way I am sending out good energy vibes right now! Relax and enjoy the flow. PP

Go small. Less stuff to get in the way. Check out the bug!

Lots of Japanese, Germans, Italians, North Koreans, Vietnamese and Laoatians have. Japanese? Germans?

Egads Sloth. Jayb has often remarked how liberals have supported guys like Stalin and Mattp has said that they hadn’t. I thought my post illustrated how they can both be correct when coupled with my suggestion (See Bush Lie Peopel Died thread) such complete disregard for facts can/should be considered a lie. Trudeau was head of the Liberal party for almost 20 years. Outlined below are some of his educational achievements. His comment relative to development of the Arctic shows that he must have had an almost willful (if not criminal) disregard for honest analysis – that a man in his position could apparently not understand Gulag system is unbelievable. Jean de Brébeuf College, B.A. 1940 University of Montreal, LL.L. 1943 Harvard University, M.A. Political Economy 1945 École des sciences politiques, Paris 1946 - 1947 London School of Economics 1947 - 1948 PP

I thought you might like this photo. I did.

Years ago a visit to the city of Norilsk prompted then-prime minister Trudeau to wonder why Canadians had never managed to settle the Arctic as the Soviets had. “NORILSK, Russia — The bones appear each June, when the hard Arctic winter breaks at last and the melting snows wash them from the site of what some people here — but certainly not many — call this city's Golgotha. “The bones are the remains of thousands of prisoners sent to the camps in this frozen island of the Gulag Archipelago. To this day, no one knows exactly how many labored here in penal servitude. To this day, no one knows exactly how many died.” Link to NYT. Those darn liberals.... PP