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Gotcha now.

Dang thats almost as good an idea as Predator vs. Alien

If you dont plan to ice climb at all in them, you might be able to go with something lighter like Lammy suggrests. They were definite factor in my taking 3 attempts to climb Prussik, like what was I thinking to wear them???

Ya Ive got the blue ones. Now that they are broken in I can and have done 16 hr days with them on, no blisters. I think getting them wet helps to break them in. They are definitely more of a mountaineering/pure ice boot than the various Trangos Lammy was mentioning which IMHO are more for crag sport ice and/or summer mtneering like for approaches not for 3000' north faces. They'd be, for instance, perfect for a summer/fall ascent of the Central Couloir of Joffre. If I was gonna take boots to the Bugaboos, Id probably go with something lighter. Comprende?

Ya but when you see that film of 2 guys snowboarding the Macho Couloir on Mt Blanc du Tacul and it only takes them ~15 minutes to descend despite all the hopping and they have an ice tool in each hand, surely it is faster than downclimbing. I mean not that I can even ski on flat ground but I can definitely appreciate the antics of the extreme skiiers even if I dont want to emulate them. Just like I will probably never be on a route where going leashless will be more efficient but I still think its cool for those M11 climbers to do it if they want.

I got em I like em. I broke them to my feet by hiking twice to Prusik last yr. They blistered me big time but are now broken in fine. They are great with the bent crampons like M10s or Grivel Rambos. Waterproofing is best to use SnowSeal or some type of wax and liberally reapply (even if you are conservative). In summer, lighter than p;lastic boos for doing those multipitch rockclimbs with a glacier approach is the reason i bought em. However I find that together with the crampon, they excel for ice. Like switching from a mitten to a glove, much better sensitivity and control. A friend borrowed them last year after he forgot his boots at home. We did Night N Gale and it was -15C out for most of the day. Perhaps because the boots were a bit small for him, he frostbit a big toe and ended up losing the nail. Anyways if its really cold out i would still prefer plastics. Also its harder to ski in them for mtneering approaches I think. Do not get the red freneys (Freney Light or something) except for summer-only use is what i hear, more of a competitior with LS Trango than an ice boot.

Cool TR. Something to look at besides Spray

I thought free heel was two words

judging by conditions in the FraserValley right now it is raining up to at least 7000 feet level. the temp on the car dealership sign was up to +15 c a few hours back as the front moved thru. pineapple anyone? thefreshiez are taking a hit big time

Skiing down faster than cramponning down unless you up.

You mean does he Flash them?

I thought you were monitoring the Who's Online and the answer was gonna be Lowell Skoog or Lurker. Or it was Lucky Lager.

Ya and the E face of Tantalus too

i didnt look, what is it about TLG?

It sure wasn't Ho Chi Minh

pagetops are so last week, right iain.

Why dont you get the nigerian bank spammers on their case? just make a bunch of posts using that email address. or, log on as one address, get a password then change your email to that email.. you know all the tricks right. great ways to get them lots of spam.

italian or spanish accent?

That NA Ski Historyu sez Sylvain Saudan was on 1st ski descent of waddington NW, but the Ski mags Snoboy gave me say Pehota said that Sylvain was too chicken to actually ski it...

yeah but sexy that half dome was only about 45 degrees.

ooops oh well. I guess you were at the slideshow and i wasnt. chris/ beeker did that plinth thing too. i think they actually skiied almost 2000m vertical on that run.

QUELLE tristesse you pseudo frog. Leave the language to us bilingual types.

johnny foon aka chilton skiied University pk in alaska; Siberian Xpress on Garibaldi; NW Face of Welch; Mt Avalanche in New Zealand; stuff in Antartica etc., jia and chris skiied N face of plinth (i climbed that face, it is consiastently at or over 60 degrees near top and consistently over 50 for >1000m ) Ptor and Troy (team dirtbag) skiied N face of Robson; Ne face of Marriott (2 rappels); W face of Monarch (skiied down 5.7 rock route) etc. I wouldnt doubt that they could or did ski Coleman Headwall if they say so. Trevor would do it!

If they funded Rainier out of the military budget they could call-up Ray and Mike to be rangers!

It means you have to buy the beer