rob Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Rad's guilty-liberal whine about having to explain the crying native americans to his children was the best. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Â Nevermind that the national median in the USA is not equivalent to Buglaria... Malta... oh, never mind. Â Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Â You're too young to remember that commercial, Rob! :-) Quote
rob Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 my biggest challenge as an American Liberal is to make sure I raise my kids with the proper amount of guilt Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 my biggest challenge as an American Liberal is to make sure I raise my kids with the proper amount of guilt  Well, you need to get your card-carrying credentials in progressive hyperbolic myopia first, then you'll be good to go.  Quote
rob Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 my biggest challenge as an American Liberal is to make sure I raise my kids with the proper amount of guilt  Well, you need to get your card-carrying credentials in progressive hyperbolic myopia first, then you'll be good to go.  I understand the key is to create the impression that not only has America done terrible things to people, but that nobody else has -- it's vital they believe that cruelty and selfishness are an American trait, not a human one. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 my biggest challenge as an American Liberal is to make sure I raise my kids with the proper amount of guilt  Well, you need to get your card-carrying credentials in progressive hyperbolic myopia first, then you'll be good to go.  I understand the key is to create the impression that not only has America done terrible things to people, but that nobody else has -- it's vital they believe that cruelty and selfishness are an American trait, not a human one.  One must also transcend the banality of accepting that things are imperfect, that faults and problems must be weighed in relative terms.  Either everything is perfect, or it is fatally flawed, and while fatally flawed we must wring our hands endlessly, bemoaning the status quo, "oh the humanity!". Quote
j_b Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 my biggest challenge as an American Liberal is to make sure I raise my kids with the proper amount of guilt  What you call guilt is also known as having a sense of fucking history so we don't repeat the same fucking "mistakes". Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Â And the 2nd progressiguiltismymiddlenametard appears right on cue... Quote
rob Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 my biggest challenge as an American Liberal is to make sure I raise my kids with the proper amount of guilt  What you call guilt is also known as having a sense of fucking history so we don't repeat the same fucking "mistakes".  But it's hard to feel the proper amount of personal guilt if you read a lot of history, because history teaches us that actually mankind in general is pretty fucked up.  If I were trying to raise a humanist or something, this would be a good idea. However, I'm really trying to cultivate a proper "America sucks and everyone else is better" attitude in my children, so it's actually quite important to not teach them world history. I'm a big fan of teaching them American history, though -- but only the bad parts. Quote
j_b Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Is this a competition for the most strawmen in one statement? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 my biggest challenge as an American Liberal is to make sure I raise my kids with the proper amount of guilt  What you call guilt is also known as having a sense of fucking history so we don't repeat the same fucking "mistakes".  But it's hard to feel the proper amount of personal guilt if you read a lot of history, because history teaches us that actually mankind in general is pretty fucked up.  If I were trying to raise a humanist or something, this would be a good idea. However, I'm really trying to cultivate a proper "America sucks and everyone else is better" attitude in my children, so it's actually quite important to not teach them world history. I'm a big fan of teaching them American history, though -- but only the bad parts.  The beauty of being a progressive is that you can always find "mistakes" to harp on incessantly. We have always fucked up and are fucking up today. And not just a little - to the most extreme point imaginable. Everything is broken and it all needs fixed. Just put the appropriate avatar pic in your profile, and you can be a progressive hand-wringer too!  Quote
rob Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 now I feel like you're personally threatening me. Are you wishing me ill on a climb???? Â Mods, take notice!!! Quote
prole Posted May 29, 2012 Author Posted May 29, 2012 The responses to the initial post (the obscene number of American children living in poverty) can be summarized as follows: "Whaaa, but what about Malta!" "Americans are human. Human nature. Next!" "It's progressives fault for bringing it up. STFU" Love it. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 The responses to the initial post (the obscene number of American children living in poverty) Â It's OBSCENE! Oh, the humanity. Feel the guilt. Prole demands it! Â Â Quote
rob Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 The responses to the initial post (the obscene number of American children living in poverty) can be summarized as follows: "Whaaa, but what about Malta!" "Americans are human. Human nature. Next!" "It's progressives fault for bringing it up. STFU" Love it. Â what are the other country's median household incomes? Without that data, the graph is kind of meaningless. I'd rather be living at 50% below 45k than 100% of 12k, for example. I mean, if I start a nation that has a median income of $5 and everybody manages to make $5 a year, does that mean I have no poverty? Â I give about 4% of my income every year to children's charities. How much do you give? I mean, besides all of the world-changing you're doing here on CC.com. Quote
j_b Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 The responses to the initial post (the obscene number of American children living in poverty) can be summarized as follows: "Whaaa, but what about Malta!" "Americans are human. Human nature. Next!" "It's progressives fault for bringing it up. STFU" Love it. Â Consider yourself lucky you didn't get the ever popular: "it's their parents' fault for being lazy, divorced, uneducated, etc", but just give it a chance, it's only a matter of time. Quote
rob Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Hey, America probably has one of the greatest wealth & income disparities in the world. We also have more incarcerated criminals than most of the rest of the world. And probably poorer education. Â I bet you can't bring yourself to say anything good, though, right? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Hey, America probably has one of the greatest wealth & income disparities in the world. We also have more incarcerated criminals than most of the rest of the world. And probably poorer education. I bet you can't bring yourself to say anything good, though, right?  Even the poor find more positive things about their lives than j_b or Prole. That's the ultimate irony.  Quote
prole Posted May 30, 2012 Author Posted May 30, 2012 I refuse to be "guilted" into considering the possibility that there might be a problem here. Girls just wanna have fun, huh Kojak? Quote
j_b Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 what are the other country's median household incomes? Without that data, the graph is kind of meaningless. I'd rather be living at 50% below 45k than 100% of 12k, for example. I mean, if I start a nation that has a median income of $5 and everybody manages to make $5 a year, does that mean I have no poverty? Â poverty is defined relative to the cost of acquiring essential amenities, which is obviously not the same everywhere. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 I refuse to be "guilted" into considering the possibility that there might be a problem here. Girls just wanna have fun, huh Kojak? Â Start with your thread title. You are a smug whiny progressive and you damn well know it. Â Most of the weekend involved people just enjoying a day off with friends and family. Patrio-ejacula? Get a life. Quote
j_b Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Hey, America probably has one of the greatest wealth & income disparities in the world. We also have more incarcerated criminals than most of the rest of the world. And probably poorer education. I bet you can't bring yourself to say anything good, though, right?  I don't see what good could be said on this topic nowadays. Now if you'd rather talk about good things, you can always go ahead. Nobody is preventing you. Quote
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