backclipped Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 "it's just a metaphor for people in general I guess." There's nothing more tiresome and hyperbolic than "bolted routes equate to the fall of western civilization" type comments. But I guess the Disciples Of Dawg need to sound off whenever a Bosch gets turned on. Who equated the fall of western civilization with bolted routes? Talk about hyperbole...My friend's statement has more to do with character and discretion. But if you don't get it, you don't get it. Moving on. Quote
ptrendler Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 "Ummmm. I did check the guidebook, did you? Obviously not as the route is not in there. " JLag - Are the two of us talking about different routes? Unless I am mistaken that route is in the second Watts guidebook... so your post here confused me. Where did you not find it? -PT Quote
Drederek Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Not that this point has much to do with the topic of conversation, You put a bolt anywhere near a crack and a climber a little gripped is likely to clip it. I've found the opposite to be true, especially on BBQ da Pope! Quote
jlag Posted June 21, 2011 Author Posted June 21, 2011 You are mistaken, this route is not in the book. I'm not talking about Stroke of Brilliance, which is the upper pitch alternative that leads to the top. This is a newly bolted P.O.S. from the ground, allowing folks to get up there without carrying all that pesky trad gear. JL Quote
el jefe Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks for all you've done for this thread, much appreciated. this thread was imbecilic to begin with, jlag, so there isn't much i could have done to retard its development. basically all i've done here is point at the ridiculously misleading title you gave it and laugh. i'm also laughing at you for being in such a snit about there being a sport climb 8-15ft distant from a trad climb at an area famous throughout the solar system for sport climbing. if someone had put up a p.o.s. trad route 8-15ft away would you consider that a "squeeze job" as well? Quote
joshzielinski Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks for all you've done for this thread, much appreciated. basically all i've done here is point at the ridiculously misleading title you gave it and laugh. seriously, can someone please change the title? it will indefinitely mislead all who stumble across it for generations to come. or leave it as an educational tool: an example of yellow journalism at its finest. Nice topo/pic DonnV, that thing's spot on. Quote
kevbone Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks for all you've done for this thread, much appreciated. basically all i've done here is point at the ridiculously misleading title you gave it and laugh. seriously, can someone please change the title? it will indefinitely mislead all who stumble across it for generations to come. or leave it as an educational tool: an example of yellow journalism at its finest. Nice topo/pic DonnV, that thing's spot on. Done Quote
kevbone Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Done Not done. Nobody bolted super slab. So all we did was change the title. Quote
Julian Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Done Not done. Look at the desecration of that virginal rock, compared to the unspoiled natural beauty of the concrete and rooftops below. Quote
el jefe Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Done Not done. nice action photo of the raindawg! Quote
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