Here We Go Again...

[Fairweather]

Seems like it wouldn't be treason but sedition or seditious libel. Treason is solely to do with war against the US. I think there could be a case for sedition.

Sedition is a term of law which refers to covert conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel.

 

Careful, Halifax. All the usual lefty suspects are now gonna come out and call you names and shit.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

There is no two-party system. Independent, Constitution, Libertarian, Worker's World, Natural Law, Green, etc...they're all free to run--and "spoil" elections.

 

The two major parties have a lock on the entire process.

[Fairweather]

There is no two-party system. Independent, Constitution, Libertarian, Worker's World, Natural Law, Green, etc...they're all free to run--and "spoil" elections.

 

The two major parties have a lock on the entire process.

 

Can you imagine regularly having two ideologically aligned parties splitting the vote every election cycle and throwing the victory to a candidate that only a small minority of voters want?

[hafilax]

I think encouraging the republican membership to circumvent the democratic electoral process to be "subversion of the constitution" and the "incitement of discontent to lawful authority".

[Fairweather]

I think encouraging the republican membership to circumvent the democratic electoral process to be "subversion of the constitution" and the "incitement of discontent to lawful authority".

 

You realize that someone on this very site attempted to do the same to John mcCain? What size audience is required before a trial is to be scheduled?

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

Can you imagine ... throwing the victory to a candidate that only a small minority of voters want?

 

This trimmed version is essentially what we have today.

[hafilax]

I would hope that it would be arguable based on the end effect. People have admitted to following his advice in Texas. It's impossible to prove but he should be harshly criticized for the notion.

 

IIRC we had a somewhat similar scandal in our last civic election. An unknown that just happened to have the same name as one of the favoured candidates showed up on the ballot for mayor.

[Fairweather]

We've always had it. Even Lincoln's victory was the product of a split ticket on the Democratic side. Teddy Roosevelt and his "Bull Moose" is directly responsible for that idiot Woodrow Wilson, and we can thank Ross Perot for Bill Clinton. I'm not sure any changes in the current process would be constitutional.

[Fairweather]

I would hope that it would be arguable based on the end effect. People have admitted to following his advice in Texas. It's impossible to prove but he should be harshly criticized for the notion.

 

 

I agree. I'm thinking the DNC should sue his fat ass. But these remedies are a far cry from convening a trial for treason or sedition. Gimme a break.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

We've always had it. Even Lincoln's victory was the product of a split ticket on the Democratic side. Teddy Roosevelt and his "Bull Moose" is directly responsible for that idiot Woodrow Wilson, and we can thank Ross Perot for Bill Clinton. I'm not sure any changes in the current process would be constitutional.

 

I like the idea of a combined primary and you get to pick your top two candidates. The top two vote-getters combined run for president.

[hafilax]

Lara Berg was investigated for Sedition in 2005 for writing a letter to the editor.

 

http://www.alibi.com/index.php?story=14092

 

Sedition is obviously in direct conflict with freedom of speech since you should be allowed to criticize the government. I guess the line is drawn when you encourage others to forcibly overthrowing the government. Couldn't the subversive removal of a favoured candidate be viewed as trying to overthrow the government?

 

I'm just musing. I know it's all talk.

[StevenSeagal]

 

I'm just musing. I know it's all talk.

 

STFU, Libturd.

[Matt Kidd]

 

Can you imagine regularly having two ideologically aligned parties splitting the vote every election cycle and throwing the victory to a candidate that only a small minority of voters want?

 

There are other electoral systems that prevent this.

[Fairweather]

They're called run-off elections, and they aren't part of the US Constitution. "Other countries" do a lot of things--most which I'm glad we don't emulate.

[Matt Kidd]

There are many more types than that, and many of them don't split the vote in the way you describe.