Wilds Things EPIC Windshirt v. Patagucci Houdini

[Choada_Boy]

Any thoughts or experience with either? Similar in cost, Wild Things about twice the weight, perhaps more durable, less breathable?

[Kraken]

might want to also check out Montbell's ultralight top. It is SUPERLIGHT and packs downsmaller than a tennisball.

[crazy_t]

I like my Houdini a lot.. surprisingly durable, can save you a lot of weight in your pack (vs. gore-tex jacket) if the conditions are right.

[Hendershot]

Ditto, Love my Houdini too. The DWR finish doesn't hold up against much more than a light sprinkle or light snowfall. Still a great shell to go over a light fleece or a baselayer. At 4 oz the weight is negligible and is always in my pack if I'm not wearing it.

[darstog]

Though I don't own, nor have I used, the WT epic windshell, I've been very impressed with the epic fabric, as I have it on a belay jacket, a tent, and a bivy sack. I do own the Marmot super-light windshirt and I've been impressed with that, too (it's really similiar to the Patagonia). Essentially, the WT and the Patagucci are fairly different jackets, with the WT being more of a shell then the Pat and the Pat more of a UL windshirt, not designed to hold up to wetter snow, rain, sleet, Seattle. I think when it's uber-cold and snow will stay in it's not-liquid state, the Pat would be fine. But for most NW conditions, the Pat will wet out if it's exposed to too much H2O. The WT will not be as breathable, will be heavier, but it could all but replace a heavier shell for many trips and conditions. If you want a windshirt, rei-outlet has the OR hooded 3.5oz windshirt for like $46.