wayne Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Nelsons books have 2 different grades: 510+ and the new updated ones say 5.11+. Beckey sayes 10+ too. Anyone done the route and if it is 11+ crack, is it just desparate? How many large cams would you take? Thanks , Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 hard to say the difficulty free, though it is a short section. 2 of the 4"-5" size might be enough, take 3 and you'd be golden. I remember hanging on my big cams so hopefully you or somone else can give us a good free rating. the next pitch is 4 or 5 star as I remember. I bet pp would rate it about 10.c hey DC do you know this crack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 cams to 3.5". Its essentially a handcrack, but at a real akward angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 not even a 4" necessary? what about a free rating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Maybe a 4 after you pull through the steep section where its easier, but the crux is probably 2 or 3 inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosolo Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I would rate it 10+ to 11- (old school). But like many cracks it is dependant upon hand size (I have big ones). For a person that has climbed many cracks (ie: IC type) it is not to difficult. Good route. I only had Friends at the time and a number 4 was the largest I had and it never felt like I wanted anything bigger than that. My guess is that the ratings (up to 11+?) reflect a lack of crack climbing experience on different rock at different areas around the country. If one has travelled a bit and experienced many cracks in the 10 to 11 range it is not too bad. I thought the climbing above the crux was quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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