trad craggin mixed routes in WA?

[eric8]

I was thinking today after falling to lead something ground up that I have never climbed a mixed pitch in wa that wasn't in the mountains or a bolted thing at the black ice wall. The pitches in the mountains your not really going to fall off and the stuff at the black ice its "okay" to. It would be nice to have something that blurred the line, so to speak. Work on both the lead head and being efficent at getting good gear. It seems that there should be a lot more of that than what is the wa ice guide. Does that make any sense?

 

Snoqualmie pass seems to have good potential, what have people done?

 

Any decent lines around pan dome?

[catbirdseat]

New York Gully comes to mind, but I've not done it myself.

[eric8]

no for me thats an alpine route. I was thinking along the lines of 100m left of alptental 1 falls there is a short m5ish route that sometimes forms a number 3 camalot protects the crux.

[layton]

problem is that ice is so unreliable here, that when it does come in, no one wants to waste a day bolting shit or dinkin around on a mod sized cliff b/c people want to tick off the plumbs.

[rat]

lifetime quitters can always find where the turf's up.