Dechristo Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 notched the soles of Sorels to accept Salewas. They worked, after a manner, for one Winter ascent... even on verglassed rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 I agree whole-heartedly that the boots will not work for water ice. Maybe a pro could do it, but certainly not a beginner. The crampons that she bought (BD Contact) are also much less than ideal for water ice. The real issue is boot fit. I would rather have someone along for the ride with cold wet feet than feet that have been turned into a pile of hamburger. I've dealt with both and I know what I would choose. As for an attack - There was none. I was surprised that anyone would have such a story to tell after visiting FF. I've been there many times and I have always gotten great service. I will still shop at FF and send others there too. WTF? Cook the books? Just an FYI - She has found a pair of Lowa Pro Mountain boots that fit well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Simpkins Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 So...would you consider these boots appropriate for climbing Rainer and Mt. Baker? Are these boots enough to keep your feet warm on long slogs with a big pack, not to mention the amount of support needed when wearing crampons? Funny, I think that is exactly what she has.... Oops, did I miss the sarcasm? Yes, I think that they are enough. Would a full shank boot be more comfortable/warmer etc? Probably. Will these work? Yes, assuming you are using the right crampons. What kind of support is needed when wearing crampons? BTW-I don't carry big packs. Since she learned from me, she doesn't either. Rainier and Baker aren't exactly Denali. So this is the boot we are talking about?, Welll.... I have rescued climbers on Mt Rainier with frostbit feet, and they had much better leather boots that those. Under the best of conditions, you might make them work, but these should not be used on rainier or baker. I dont' think this model is waterproof either. There is a Gortex Version of it that has a little Gortex logo on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 i'm glad some ff people spoke up here - there's always more than one side to every story ... and always more details that can be added ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Simpkins Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 I agree. They have always been nice and helpful there, even when I was a noob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromage Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 As for an attack - There was none. I was surprised that anyone would have such a story to tell after visiting FF. I've been there many times and I have always gotten great service. I will still shop at FF and send others there too. An attack? No. A sensational, misinformed, inaccurate, misleading statement? Let the reader decide. There was no lambasting involved, and as Miller eloquently presented his account of the situation, no mention of ankle breaking, either. In the future before you go making bold statements that tarnish the reputation of a business I suggest you get your facts straight. People have been sued for slander and libel on far flimsier grounds. I, too, will continue to support Feathered Friends. I appreciate the kind of experience that their sales staff have and the friendliness of their manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Hobbick Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Vasque Sundowners come in a narrow size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 As for an attack - There was none. I was surprised that anyone would have such a story to tell after visiting FF. I've been there many times and I have always gotten great service. I will still shop at FF and send others there too. An attack? No. A sensational, misinformed, inaccurate, misleading statement? Let the reader decide. There was no lambasting involved, and as Miller eloquently presented his account of the situation, no mention of ankle breaking, either. In the future before you go making bold statements that tarnish the reputation of a business I suggest you get your facts straight. People have been sued for slander and libel on far flimsier grounds. I, too, will continue to support Feathered Friends. I appreciate the kind of experience that their sales staff have and the friendliness of their manner. It's nice that you are backing up the store. I'd like to point out it's not my story that was told. I was relating someone else's. So, were you there, or are you simply another internet voice chiming in with the tired old "Me too!"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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