luwayo Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 i suppose the How To series & FOTH are good places to start. any comments on how i should begin to apply this? i'm a bit wary of self-teaching myself on this topic actually. i've been thinking on it, but not doing much ever since my friend took a tumble on High Mtn. Woody & hit a big flake on the way down. in hindsight i could have aided my way up (or could i have?), or walked out on the train tracks ofcourse, but i chose to grovel/simper/squirm & slide back up that muddy descent gully. anyhow, i feel i need another bag of tricks for the next time i find myself in a pickle. and i'd rather draw on some scrap of experience than have to sort out the permutations of theory under pressure. i am also unskilled in placing/removing pins, identifying good cracks, and ofcourse am a little bewildered by the weaponry. some exposure to this would be good too. don't be alarmed - i'm not intending to pound on the crags or any tourist routes! the alpine is where my heart is, but my lack of talent is really starting to show as inadequate for my desires. 2005 will be more of a cragging year in the *hopes* of not needing to aid a 5.9!....and on it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Learning to solo-aid as a method to go for help for an injured climbing partner is probably not the best idea particularly if you are relatively new to climbing. Your partners injured, you've probably lowered him back down to the ledge. You got a rope and full rack, what do you do? Easy answer is get help in a manner that doesn't result in you being injured as well. Solo-aiding is a technique that is ripe with potential fuck-ups. Rappel, solo out or wait for help. On another topic, there are plenty of incredible and worthy alpine climbs that don't require the ability to lead 5.10. Any ridge on Forbidden, the NE Buttress of Goode. The list goes on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Learn the skills well and one day too you will be a successful, experienced aid climber like the guy in this picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luwayo Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 great hero pose i don't know if i can be prepared enough for such a clusterfest. hope knitting skills help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranestyle Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 i am also unskilled in placing/removing pins, identifying good cracks, and ofcourse am a little bewildered by the weaponry. some exposure to this would be good too. I agree with you here, some exposure would be good. I haven't done a ton of aiding and find it to be pretty tedious, but I think in a short amount of time you can leanr a lot. I know more about my gear and how to use it to its fullest potential. Aiding may not be the most expedient way to get to your friend, plus it's some extra gear to haul around, but I highly recommend learning to aid (for a little bit anyway.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luwayo Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 dberdinka thank you for your sagacity. i've spent some time pondering scenarios of me solo aiding. it doesn't sit too well with me, nevertheless i feel compelled to expand the repertoire. parenthetically, i was reading about Kris in Utah & his painstakingly safe solo aid practice, (p.73 of ANAM 2004) and with respect to his accident re: spring freeze/thaw cycle relating to cracks. thought i'd mention it as we are having a warm february. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Aid has more uses than soloing to the rescue. A bit of impromptu aid can be just the thing when a rainstorm catches you on a hard pitch, or when forced to climb in spite of an injury, or in any other situation where you must climb past obstacles that became harder than anticipated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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