Peter_Puget Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 ....read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 what happened to ww3, note i have not read your link yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jopa Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 If anyone takes the time to read this, be sure to check out his background to see from which perspective he is writing. There is some good information here: http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/conversations/Podhoretz/podhoretz-con0.html The biggest problem I have with Norman's piece is that he begins with the assumption that: "His objective is not merely to murder as many of us as possible and to conquer our land. Like the Nazis and Communists before him, he is dedicated to the destruction of everything good for which America stands." I disagree that his objective is to destroy all that is good in the United States. He has said himself his objective is to remove the United States' military arm from the Middle East. Destroying "all that is good" is just the means to satisfying that end. By erroneously making this assumption the United States has only added fuel to the fire, rather than trying to understand how it started to begin with. And Szyjakowski, he claims that WW3 was the Cold War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Sheesh, warn a guy before he blindly hits "print". It's 55 pages long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 JOpa - Anyone who reads the essay will have no questions regarding Norman's "perspective." Here is one quote from the essay: "As a "founding father" of neoconservatism who had broken ranks with the Left precisely because...." There are plenty of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jopa Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yes, I saw those. I always find it helpful to find information from sources outside the source I am reading. God forbid anyone goes looking for answers that aren't spoon fed to them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assmonkey Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Well, the neo-cons totally failed in Iraq. Bremer's little exercise in hyper-neocon economics only succeeded in fanning the flames of militant Islam. Woot! Way to go guys! If there has been anything learned from that exercise, it's that the neo-cons are COMPLETELY WRONG. And now they have COMPLETELY FAILED. Check out Naomi Klein's article in this month's Harper's for more details. Anyway, now that the neocons have proven how inept they are, can we move on to something else, please? Thanks, - a s s * m o n k e y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotterdamerung Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Whatever you say A$$HOLEpuppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotterdamerung Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Well, the neo-cons totally failed in Iraq. Bremer's little exercise in hyper-neocon economics only succeeded in fanning the flames of militant Islam. Woot! Way to go guys! If there has been anything learned from that exercise, it's that the neo-cons are COMPLETELY WRONG. And now they have COMPLETELY FAILED. Check out Naomi Klein's article in this month's Harper's for more details. Anyway, now that the neocons have proven how inept they are, can we move on to something else, please? Thanks, - a s s * m o n k e y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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