gslater Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 From today's news: Associated Press SEATTLE -- Long droughts and more winter rain than snow could become common in the Northwest and threaten the region's water supply, fish and more, climate scientists here said Friday. The Cascades are in trouble if climate projections from new studies for the coming decades are accurate, said Edward Miles, leader of the Climate Impacts Group at the University of Washington. Northwest temperatures will increase by about 3 to 6 degrees Fahrenheit by the 2040s, and the Cascades snowpack will decline by 59 percent by 2050, Miles said. "If you think about this in terms of risk management, it's past time to buy some insurance," Miles said in reporting the findings at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. "And the insurance is planning. It takes 20 years to change a water supply system, so time's a-wastin'." "These results are more dramatic than past results because we have more improved models that include much greater climate detail," Miles said in an interview. He also reported on a new University of Washington study with scientists from the University of Colorado that examined 800 snowpack records from 1950 to 2000 for the entire West. Although he declined to give details because the findings have not been published, Miles said both computer models and direct observations tell the same story about the past half-century: About 75 percent of the West has seen declines in spring snowpack in excess of 30 percent in low to middle elevations. He added that the Cascades have been particularly hard-hit, along with mountain ranges in Northern California. Philip Mote, research scientist with the University of Washington Climate Impacts Group, and Martin Clark of the University of Colorado found that the Cascades' average April 1 snowpack had decreased by 60 percent between 1950 and 2000. "I was expecting to see only a zero to 30 percent decline," Mote said in an interview. They also found that average temperatures had increased by between 2.5 and 3.5 degrees Fahrenheit at many sites throughout Oregon and Washington since 1920. "What these observations emphasize in surprising detail is that the projections for the future are already coming true," said Mote, who is the Washington state climatologist. Mote said that the largest snowpack declines in the West are projected to be in the Cascades, where they have been for 50 years. Miles and his colleagues attribute the snowpack losses primarily to temperature increases. The Northwest has had a 1.5 degree increase in average annual temperature in the past century, nearly a half-degree more than the global temperature increase. In addition, the scientists project that summer drought seasons will lengthen by about a month to six weeks. "Spring flow peaks will come earlier and won't be as large," Miles said, which will put more demands on water from the Columbia and other rivers. Quote
cracked Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I thought we're going to experience an ice age? Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 No, no, we are going to experience a "Brush Age". Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Seriously, we are going to have to build more reservoirs and that is going to create a lot of conflict. Where are we going to build these reservoirs? Which verdant valleys shall we flood? To some extent, we can reduce our need for water by recycling of grey water for irrigation, and perhaps even reclaiming sewage water after tertiary treatment, but I am not sure it will be enough. When Los Angeles was faced with water shortages, they went north and took the water from the Owens Valley. Hmmm, maybe we should look north too. Those Canucks have more water than they know what to do with anyway. Quote
AlpineK Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Perhaps Fairweather and or Peter Puget can advise us on whether we should flush with Perrier or San Pellegrino. Quote
cracked Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I'm looking forward to a mini ice age/impending disaster. It will be interesting no matter what. Say, maybe a buncha people will die, the population will be minimized, plants will flourish, CO2 will be absorbed, and the cycle will start over! Agent Smith was right: "There is another creature that does this: Do you know what it is? A virus. You humans are a cancer of this planet, you are a...plague" Quote
Alex Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 I heard this report too. Seems crazy to think that we will see all this change so radically within our lifetimes. Quote
ScottP Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 I thought we're going to experience an ice age? Some scientists believe that enough fresh water melting off polar ice caps and the glaciers of Greenland could shut down the Gulf Stream and trigger just that in northern Europe and the eastern N America. An understandable explanation... Quote
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