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This is already the case when it comes to life and disability insurance, and I have yet to hear anyone wailing over the gross injustice of this situation.
The self employed who've had to purchase do moan. They also moan about health insurance costs.
The people who receive it through their corporation don't moan, because corporate health insurance has truly bizarre rate calculations in my experience(namely roughly similar rates despite ancedotally dramatic differences in longterm care requirements, age and health of employees).
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No, what I am saying is I want us to stop pussy-footing around about telling people what they need to hear, rather than want to hear. That's what the thread started out as. And it's hilarious (and case in point) to read all the defensive reaction to that suggestion.
As has been pointed out KK, telling people what they "need" to hear often isn't the most effective means of getting them to change their behavior. Which I believe is the subject of this, right? Getting people to change their behavior?
Long winded insulting rants whether it be on weight or politics rarely change opinions. They are a nice release though
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True - that argument that everyone in the country participating in regular exercise that carries some risk of injury would be far more costly than the the present and future prevalence of obesity had a lot going for it.
I thought we were charging every individual for the risk they incurred?
You can stay perfectly healthy with negligible injury risk riding the stationary bike and using the stairmaster
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Bullshit. Give me numbers. How many cyclists die or are injured every year compared to drivers on our freeways? Normalize it based on participants in said activity if you'd like. And how much does that cost the system?
So really what you and JayB are saying is you want people to be charged by risk as long as your premiums aren't affected.
Typical
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Do you know how much a friggin' knee-replacement operation costs for example?
Perhaps it's who I know, but I know more athletes who've required extensive, expensive, knee surgery than morbidly obese.
If there's one thing that has policymakers and actuaries in a tizzy these days, it's how to contend with the costs associated with paying for all of the knee-repair bills for amateur athletes.
It's actually kind of flattering when people who can't address an argument intelligently, let alone refute it, elect to respond in this fashion.
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Do you know how much a friggin' knee-replacement operation costs for example?
Perhaps it's who I know, but I know more athletes who've required extensive, expensive, knee surgery than morbidly obese.
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No, I think the logic is that if you are unhealthy in any way, you don't get insurance. Insurance is permitted only for people who don't need it.
It would please big business immenseley to enact this change.
It's perfect. You pay in perpetuity for a service you'll never use. Genius!
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For everyone else - the fatter they get, the more they should pay for their health insurance.
So by that same logic bulimics and anorexics should receive free care?
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shit - I'm set for life based on cc.com spray alone
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I'm tired of subsidizing the stupid people in the world. I want them to pay their own way. They don't have to be stupid, they choose to be a dumbass. Lizard brain - you owe me $1,000
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at some point the individual isn't capable of monitoring all that goes on in their life and must rely on some agent. Often that agent is called "government" because its proven itself more honest than "the market" (note relative term used)
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Yes. Anything that'll save me money. After all, I am completely self-involved.
Not genetic - statisics.
SELF VALIDATION!
I vote we through the skinny fucks in freezing water for 15 minutes. Or just give them a serious traumatic injury and watch them die.
Or just end all forms of insurance and make everybody pay for themselves, it's the only way to ensure everyones insurance is accurate.
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There we go - resting heart rate around 52. Run 30+ miles a week. Ran 17 miles yesterday. (Marathon approaching.)
Yeah, I look at these people like my doc and my cousin, and wonder what they think when they have to deal with people that are practically killing themselves, and just making excuses while they do it. It's their choice, I guess.
Do you apply that standard to people working high stress jobs as well?
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I hear so much stuff from people that say they can't lose weight. But when I look at what they're eating, and how much of it...
I sat down in the break room to eat my lunch with two gigantic women at a place where I was working some years ago. One of them said 'Is that all you're gonna eat?' I wanted to say 'If I ate as much as you, I'd be as fat as you', but working for the state at the time, I could have been fired in a second for not being completely PC.
I just shrugged. 'Yeah.'
Case in point JayB
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So transferring agency to Nicotine for smoking was not a good sign?
Simple statements about personal virtue are rarely effective in producing change amongst people - their only product is a sense of smug selfsatisfaction in the utterer
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FATTIE THREAD!
:tup: LOOK ITS A MORON!
we should put people like him on bulletainboards so people can point, laugh, and say "haha I'm glad I'm not a dumbass"
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BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STUPID
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Not mine!
I stick to Scandinavian strumpets and czech courtesans
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Which was the title of the prequel porn movie to "Sin Bad: 1001 desert hot nights"
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Interesting, very interesting. You spending much time their this winter?
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beri beri healthy?
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Fatties get special treatment?
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Perhaps you should benefit society and remove yourself from this debate. Your continued presence merely showcases your multiple mental inadequacies and embarasses us all.