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Bad theory???.....dude...evolution is just as much of a proven fact as theology is....which should tell you something.....you cannot prove God exsists anymore than I can prove we came from apes....Its all about what you believe to be true. I believe in evolution. It makes more sense to me. Organized religion these days seems more for the money making aspect of it more than any other thing it brings to the table. In the end.....if it does not hurt anyone else and it brings peace unto you.......so be it.....enjoy. BUT PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO PREACH IT TO ME. I HAD ENOUGH OF IT GROWNING UP. Have to admit Kevbone you have more of a brain than half the people here. It is a beleif system. It also a religion, huminism.

I could ask the same question what if all evidence pointed to creation, would you beleive? Would you black list it like so many others? It not been disproven but people black black list it. I think there could be life in space. If God made it here he could have made it somewhere else. Its possible. What about human cloning?? Human have become smart enough to use the building blocks God created. We can't create it but we can manipulate and use it. I think we need to be careful or run the risk of Hilter and the master race.

Evolutionist theories are getting so bad that alot of them are turning to space to explain life. Life here through real science is getting tougher to explain. So alot of them are looking to space for the answer to life. If evolution were true, every square foot of the earth's surface would teem with conclusive proof of change. The entire absence of proof is the strongest possible proof that evolution is a myth

It only the most plausable to you becuase you dismiss God. There is no God so therefor Creation cann't exist and anthing that even remotely support it is thrown out. God created structure to this world with science. Of course I beleive in real science. I do not give creadance to a reiligion of huminism, Evolution. It is not proven and I don't think ever will be. Not one specious even with all the real science we have today has been linked to another. Alot of people don't want to beleive there is a God so what other choice is there. To accept would be to have to admit responsibilty to something else and most people like control of there own lives. Fine I'm cool with that. But don't shove it down my throat and say its a fact when it is not a fact. TV statement that it FACT shows how blinded he is. Have him calulate how far the moon moves from the earth each year and go back in time before everything is thrown off. Creation can not be proved and neither can evolution.

Want some more sound science from evolutionist??? You don't think they have an agenda???

fact: Piltdown. Almost everyone now knows that Piltdown Man was a deliberate hoax. But for over 40 years, from 1912 until the 1950's, the subtle message of scientific authority was clear: "You can believe in creation if you want to, but the facts are all on the side of evolution." The facts in this case turned out to be an ape's jaw with its teeth filed and a human skull, both stained to make them look older

successful theory lol ever hear of the Nebraska man? A whole missing link made up by you evolutionist to support your theores to be found out year later to be a pigs tooth. And yes this was taugh in text books as fact. Bunch of fricking liers.

A fossile can get there many different ways that doesn't prove a thing, just that it existed at one point. And how would you explain soft tissue such as blood vessel being found in dinasour bones??? You can choice to beleive what you want but there are other views that have just as much credibility and none of it can be proved unless you were there.

How can you speak for a christian and what he feels??? the arrogance.

Show me the test that proves evolution is a fact. Not a bunch hypothisis. Not even the great debaters can do this on either side.

LOL and who decides evolution is sound science??? Last time I checked it was a theory. Unless you were there.

correction, Christians don't sell. They point the way. All we can do is point, it's other people's choices if they want to listen, not ours. Jesus is not a product. He is God in flesh, and took Pink's place on the cross, as all of us. We all deserve what we should get, and I deserve it more than any of you, thank God he is graceful. "THE" Way. No arrogance there. yeah noticed that too. oh well, gloves off, bitches! Guess Jesus was arrogant. "I am the Way. The Truth and "THE" life."

Correction: Various cults have created the myth that Jesus died for our sins. One thing is probably accurate: Someone named Jesus died on a cross because the Romans sentenced him to death. Past that, it's all what you want to believe. Correction the Bible was written by men who were I witnesses to what happened. That has been proven. So your myth shit is non- sense. In fact Saul who later was named Paul (who put Christians to death becuase he thought they were full of it) later died upside down on a cross becuase he felt he wasn't worthy to die the same way as Jesus. What do think made him change?? Oh wait all the stuff he wrote in the bible was shit and he died for no reason. Come on.

Its okay TV I don't hate you, I do think your an intolerant hypocritical ignorant fool.

Pyromania.

Ouch...even for Seahawks. seahawks, we all believe your a dumbass, and we didn't even have to sell it. it sold itself. Pink the fact that you have to put me down to try to make yourself look better to your internet buddies shows who the dumbass is.

Post of the day I couldn't agree more. It seems that, so often, evangelical sects prey on those in trouble who are most susceptible to grabbing any life preserver they can find. LOL here goes that I'm smarter than all attitude. Them christian are a bunch of dumb asses. Examine yourself you spew hate.

:lmao: hey don't get too cozy, bud. i'm still waiting for your response regarding the council of nicea. dumbass. Huh??? On a roll lol

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Join the Muslims they get 64 virgins to doink for all eternity for being good little human bomb boys.

Yeah, if you, TTK, and JH didn't tell me you were atheists, I'd think you were great people too. heck, I might even like you in person. Kind of like those who post disrepectful avatars with images of Christ smoking a cigarette, or the bastardized sistine-chapel image of the spagetthi monster touching the hand of man, or joking about how funny and cool "bong hits for Jesus" would be. right back at you hateful, vitriolic atheists who are so intolerant and disrespectful for those who choose faith and a meaningful existence over an accident of nature ending in death and cessation of consciousness forever. News flash! Every Christian knows there are lots of atheists and agnostics out there. In fact we are made painfully aware of this every year as the ACLU and loud-mouthed atheists try to restrict our rights to celebrate our religion in public and try to force us into a closet. Some of US find it offensive that YOU characterize our choice/faith as being a "security blanket", that YOU call us "weak-minded fools" who believe in fables, myths, and fantasy, and that you think we chose our faith lightly, with no thought whatsoever. I know you will find this hard to believe, but some of us Christians actually find vocal, hateful, organized atheists just as offensive as you find prosetylizing Christians. well said.

well said man, do you all have jobs? How do you post so much during the day? too much to read now, but I jumped to the end, seems the conversation went lame,... I'm not going, nor do I have the time, to respond to much said, but I wanted to use this example (and there are others all over this board) of these judgmental and angry words used, without even knowing us. Just read above,... we are in your (dmuja) own words, and satisfyingly agreed by Pink "condescending, judgmental attitudes, wolves in sheep garb, arrogance, smiles packaged in nice deception, judgmental (did I say that)". Sounds like someone needs to point the finger in the other direction? Just a thought, but I was thinking maybe you ought to practice what you preach. I'm thinking I'm far from perfect and I may say some off things, but this is quite irrational, specially coming from climbers,...that is if you are serious climbers in the first place, maybe internet nerds, I don't know. I would think a climbing community would be a little more tolerant. I think if you got to know me, and I didn't tell you I was a Christian, I would be the guy in your workplace who works hard, and takes care of his friends, Christian or not, and I think we would dig each other, and I think you would speak differently of me. I think these internet forums are a facade of ranting and raving, placing prejudicial past experiences into present judgments, but each of us are different in person. Just a thought. Don't judge us all by the few freaks here. I would bet your a pretty cool person and I bet most here are pretty cool people but behind a computer sometimes brings the worst out.

Somebody gets their marching orders from this guy . . . Never listen to the guy, he reminds me of those faky preachers on TV. All about filling there pocket books.

If I were not a Boy Scout leader I might find that funny. My son is 12 and is totally into Scouts. So yeah, I am a middle aged man who is a scout leader. Just for differant reasons. I have managed to get some of the boys up some peaks on the I-90 corridore, but only 1 so far up to Camp Muir. I am still working on it.... You should be comended for taking time from your schedule and investing in these young kids. That is totally respectable. If more did this what a better place.

They sued to stop federal funding to the boy scouts. Thats why I no longer bank with Bank of America. Bank of America will not give a loan or bank account to atheists? Haha I guess I slipped under the wire! Bank of America stopped there funding to Boy scouts becuase they are based out of SF and are the ACLU's whipping boy.