twocents

The high winds and blowing snow, and even the cold temps, shouldn't have been issues if they had built a good snow cave. I don't know why the snow cave wasn't enough to keep Kelly from hypothermia. Experienced people have stated that a properly dug out cave can keep you safe in temps well below freezing. And the wind shouldn't have been the problem since you are out of the wind once inside.

Continue backwards? o..............k

My note to Katie Couric and CBS NEWS. "How dare you ask a grieving widow on the brink of tears about such issues as $5 beacons and adequate climbing equipment. Your network and Katie have no shame, but it doesn't surprise me. I didn't like you before, and don't like you now. I regret that Karen even gave you the interview you don't deserve."

The cost for local rescue operations should come from the governmental agencies that have already bilked the Oregon public. It's called thievery, and it's especially rampant in the N.E. United States, left coast, and Pacific Northwest where liberals abound. The first place politicians will look when they conspire to raise your taxes after already raising your sales tax, income tax, and property taxes again this year, is to then gauge the tourist, visitor, businessperson. That means exhorbitant taxes on hotels and rent cars, plus the additional sales taxes the state receives on recreational equipment that wouldn't be sold there if you didn't have mountains and scenery - snowmobiles, ski equipment, etc. One store owner said if you don't rent and want climbing gear, $2,000 easy. Plus all the tax on rentals. It's everywhere. Tax, tax, tax. If you add up the taxes from all the many thousands of tourists who visit Hood and the rest of Oregon, it should be far more than the $15,000 that was reported as the sheriff's budget for SAR. Get a grip Oregon. Where's all that tax money going? If the policitians say there's not enough money in the coffer for SAR, you should vote them out of office cause they sure can dole it out to people (via social programs) who sit on their butts all day and don't have their lives in immediate danger. As for the miltiary, they write it off to training, and the best training is real life, not some soldier laying in a known field somewhere pretending to be down. They'd rather have it that way and aren't complaining. It's all about money and competition with other states for tourist dollars. Start charging climbers for insurance, and viola, fewer climbers. Hood ain't the only mountain in the world.

8D Mt.Muffin is a good climb. I solo that all the time pics?

Well I'm just not buying this whole 'build a snow cave in the middle of the NF left gully in the middle of a blizzard during avalanche season' routine. Nope, never.

Harry's kid brother?

Amen, and amen. But they 'just don't get it.' Careful Molly, that's going a little too far. And if your taxes are only two cents, I'd like the number for your tax preparer.

Because the essence of climbing is conquering nature and the mountain. Also, they were suicidal and they were hoping to die. The mountain wins. I think we should all just conquer things we can handle. Walk up to tie-in-rock wearing a t-shirt and shorts in June, take some nice pictures for grandma and come back down. All in a day. Simple solution. Nice, neat, safe.

Hmm. kevboner would like that, especially if you tie him up first. While you're at it, put duct tape over that shithole right below his big ass nose.

You have failed. Again. Now go get a job and keep it.

Hey I'm not a ghoul. How rude. 1 : a legendary evil being that robs graves and feeds on corpses 2 : one suggestive of a ghoul; especially : one who shows morbid interest in things considered shocking or repulsive

i like to have my muff eaten... does that count??? its not blueberry though Flexibility is the key to all of life's endeavors. A pinch of seasoning and it'll be fine.

I'm over 100! Yeah! 200 or bust! Knowledge of all and complete credibility is near!

Hey would you stop with all the namecalling? Don't you know you're talking to the Gods of the universe?

awww, i want one. does he have a sister?

There's nothing to get except that you're a disgusting disgruntled moron. I got that a long time ago.

Guess again! There is a huge hazing period you must go through. We all went through it. Bah, this site is fine for newbies, and anyone interested is welcomed, I was there when I didn't know my ass from a bowline. The trick is to have some tact and not be an asshole! Yeah! Follow the example of others you dimwit newbies! Have some tact and don't be an asshole. Its a neat trick.

That's such a cute name... muffin. I had a friend down the street who had a little terrier named muffin. This is making me want to eat one right now. Make mine blueberry.

Honestly as an "experienced climber" it would be my slightly-informed opinion that the most a significant contributing factors to this accident were based on decisions made within the time span of "MONTHS, WEEKS AND DAYS" rather than "minutes and seconds". The guys got a point. Or at least, months, weeks, days, AND seconds. I've learned a lot from their experience.

lmao. complete with crystal ball? too funny. and i don't have to ask where his/her next meal is coming from.

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His brother Frank said that in high school, Kelly dislocated a shoulder while wrestling, popped it back in, and went on to finish and/or win the match. So he would have known how to do that if he knew how to do it way back then. It's amazing how the screwed up media and others screwed up yet another supposed fact. They speculated on shoulders before a doctor checked him out. They should know better than to speculate like that. In keeping with the trend, I speculate that it must have come from a well intended rescue worker who thought they saw an 'obvious' injury, and did a strictly visual medical evaluation. Maybe the coat he was wearing looked crooked, and that translates to a dislocated shoulder. Whoever made the claim isn't coming to this site or retracting their claim in the media or otherwise explaining themselves, so we're on our own. I doubt the sheriff came up with that on his own. Xrays and scans show much more. So if it really was a dislocated shoulder, someone fixed it before delivering him to the medical examiner. I suspect a conspiricy that involves several individuals. Call in the flying 3-legged kitty detective!

I speculate that it's just the handiwork of more twisted minds that belong in padded cells.