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JasonG: Thanks, I did a quick and dirty add of a few photo based on your help. You should write instruction manuals for computer software companies.

PCG: what if I just post a photo of the fat chipmunk hanging by it's teeth from my friend's thumb in place of the words of that comment? I have not yet figured out how to embed a photo in the words of a report, so I guess that won't happen. The photo says it all :-)

PCG: thanks for your comment. I'm glad it was useful info (that was my intent).

Alex: does it seem like a trip report now? I get on CC's.com most often when I am checking out current conditions and new route info for climbs I am planning for. I posted the info to provide a tidbit of info about the current conditions of the PT that may encourage others to go on it this year. I do not often contribute in a way that benefits other users of this web site, so I thought I'd try to do so once in a while. I'll keep my trip "notes" off of my trip reports for now on.

Trip: North Cascades (WA) - Ptarmigan Traverse: north half Date: 8/21/2011 Trip Report: Conditions update from our August 18 – 21 trip: For those interested in a late-season Ptarmigan Traverse trip there is still plenty of time to do it this year. It’s nice to have a chance to go from couch-potato to good shape earlyMay-earlyAugust to carry a large climbing pack deep into the rugged Cascades at the end of August. Right now the snow and glacier conditions are still very good (firm and deep, ascent to Red Ledge’s is good, descent down Spider/Formidable col is good, islands of snow patches to cross frequently are of the non-postholing type, glaciers are just now starting to crevasse up). We cramponned up a lot since even stiff boots could cut/punch only 3-4 inches into the snow with two or three kicks. It’s a good time to travel fast on foot on the PT. We climbed LeConte (E/NE face up the snow and onto the ridge: snow covers large parts of the scramble route so you have to get creative up high and go onto a knife ridge) and Old Guard (we made a mistake on route choice and after failed attempts from the NE we headed home under the north face and saw a 200-foot 45-degree couloir to a notch with Sentinel and then ascended easy fun 3rd class rock to the summit). Neither Old Guard or LeConte had summit registers that we could find, which surprised us. Notes to those interested in my notes from this trip for my next trip (and a useless rant about chipmunk feeding that reveals my hypocracy since I’m guilty of feeding camp robbers with great joy): 1.)We left helmets behind out of the interest of going lighter and having less crap jiggling on our packs (or taking up volume that could be filled by very large cucumbers and booze and such inside). In retrospect I wish we would have brought and frequently worn helmets on steep traverses where a slip would mean a fast slide into talus field. Also, on the traverse in a couple of locations and while ascendiing LeConte, we had some party-inflicted rockfall that could have resulted in a bad head injury that a helmet may have prevented. 2.) Going north to exit the PT gave me a new appreciation for doing steep descending traverses with large packs. Getting off the Red Ledges was sketchy without using rope/picket protection however going up them two days before was a snap. Doing a descending a steep, hard, dirt 120-foot section on the “trail” between the Cache Glacier and Cascade Pass was the most treacherous part of the trip (no chance to arrest a slip and very bad run-out). 3.) To all the Disney-brainwashed fans that see wildlife as cute little cuddly creatures that are pet /child-like and in need of feeding to show friendship and camaraderie with wild things: please stop feeding Alvin, Simon, and Theodore! Regardless of your deep desire to carry less food weight that big friggen fat chipmunk at Cascade Pass does not need another 11 almonds, 3 Gummy Bears, 6 Wheat Thins, and the tip of your finger (yes, they are carnivorous when provoked, which means if you start to feed her and stop before here extra-large belly and jowls are full she will attack and take a piece of you to her winter stash – ask Jill from our group). Just think of it this way if you have any interest in a chipmunk’s well-being: making her bigger, tastier, and an easier meal for Mr. Badass Golden Eagle does not improve her life one tiny bit. 4.) Take great friends with you. It’s likely you’ll get tired from hiking and succumb to the desire to just relax at a camp site longer than your super-summit-fever-repeat-the-original-Ptarmigan-Trip plan calls for. This North Cascade alpine region is amazing with stunning scenery everywhere you look and roam from Cub Lake north to the Cascade Pass trailhead. 5.) Consider camping away from other groups, both for your mountain peace as well as for theirs. There are LOTS of great places to camp on dirt or rock along the way with running or pooled clear water nearby. 6.) Bring easy to install crampons that you are proficient at installing/removing. Most people will end up installing crampons multiple times each day due to changing surface conditions from heather-cut dirt trails to hard steep snow to talus fields to glaciers. Using steel crampons will make you less concerned about wearing them on talus to get from one patch of steep hard snow to the next = saving time and effort. I generally wear my nice lightweight Grivel Air-Tech aluminum crampons and cringed a bit during several rocky/unstable walking on rocks and the points are a good 1/8” worn off from this trip. Oh, and each of the many crampon install/removal stops lead to second and third and fourth breakfast. As a result you will move more slowly than expected and gain weight on this trip. 7.) Regarding experience level of climbers attempting this route: Be good at steep snow travel while wearing a heavy pack before going on this traverse. This is not a beginner’s trip to learn how to ice axe arrest, wear crampons for the first time, or to learn how to travel on steep snow. My partners did well and had mountain climbing experience but I still should have been more considerate of a few team member’s steep snow expertise/comfort. It would have been easy and not very time-consuming for me to have set a few pickets with a rope to protect some steep snow spots that had really bad run-out and with no chance of arresting a slip. 8.) Even if you have a bomb-proof weather forecast for your whole trip and a few days beyond it (sunny and warm) you need to take that forecast with a grain of salt. This is the middle of the North Cascades and the forecast is really only good for about 2-3 days. Doing steep traverses on rock, dirt, and snow with large packs on is hard enough in dry conditions but when it rains it gets much, much more spicy. We came out a day early because we saw clouds forming to the west and sure enough the rain hit the next morning (Monday). On my previous PT trip of 6 days there was rain and fog for the first five days and it made the trip barely tolerable comfort-wise and much less safe to walk in steep terrain. 9.) For an alternative ascent to the ridge west and above the lower Yang Yang Lake you may try the couloir that goes to climber’s left/south of the standard shoulder approach to the ridge (the couloir is clearly seen right now from the approach to Yang Yang Lakes from Spider-Formidable Col). For us the couloir was filled in with firm snow to the top of the ridge. It is steep, with the top part up to 50 degrees, and 300 feet long with poor run-out, but a climber that is comfortable on steep snow will likely feel ok on it without much, if any, protection and it would save time and energy getting onto the ridge from the lakes to head south toward LeConte. 10.) Consider protecting the vegetation around the lakes on this traverse: For a first night camp site there are several options for people of regular climbing fitness depending on when you leave the Cascade Pass trailhead. The very top of Cache Col is a possibility and there are excellent solid-rock ledges at the base of the Middle Cascade Glacier about 1.5 hours hike south of Kool-Aid Lake. Although Yang Yang Lakes is a wonderful spot to camp on night #2 you could instead camp on the ridge above it just north of LeConte and have less biting bugs as a result. The col where you would descend from the LeConte Glacier to the South Cascade glacier would be an amazing camp site on night 2 or 3 (also on solid rock). 11.) Bring less fuel and food! I keep overestimating the amount of snow my team will need to melt for water (none on this trip and only one day of snow melting on the previous six-day trip in early August 2002). Two Jetboil canister stoves with 3 large gas canisters would have been large enough for our group of 7 on this 4 night trip. 12.) Make a team-gear carrying plan that everyone agrees to before the trip. Nobody really wants to carry the ropes, pickets, rappel cord, first aid supplies, tents, cooking gear, water filter, etc. but if there is a plan on how to share before the trip then it is one less thing to spend time/energy addressing during the trip. 13.) Put a full-sized spare tire in the car trunk for this trip. It would not be fun to get a flat when you are twenty miles up the Cascade River Rd at 8:00 pm and want to get home faster than a factory spare tire allows for. 14.) Bring folding lawn chairs to sit on at the trailhead after the climb. It would be so much more civilized than sitting on the gravel and leaning back against someone’s car while guzzling beer and taking off shoes. 15.) Get back to the trailhead early enough so that you can make it to a real restaurant that is still open and willing to serve you a big greasy bacon mushroom swiss burger with yam fries and a pint of goodness after having only gorp, dried fruit and meat, and PBJ's to eat for days. 16.) Get the pack down to sub-40 lbs for a 6-day PT trip. It can be done. 17.) Ascending from the Cascade Pass trailhead to Kool-Aid Lake took 4 hours. From Kool-Aid Lake to Yang-Yang Lakes took 6 hours. Returning from Yang Yang Lakes to Cascade Pass trailhead with multiple long crampon-snack breaks took 11 hours. 18.) Spend less time planning for the trip and writing about the trip afterwards and more time climbing. chipmunk at Cascade Pass eating a thumb Looking south from Spider-Formidable col (Yang Yang Lakes can be seen) looking south from Cache Col towards Kool Aid Lake and Red Ledges LeConte Glacier up close (few crevassess, easy traveling) Looking south to Yang Yang Lakes, LeConte Mtn, Sentinel Mtn, and Old Guard Mtn wi a rare, albino, hairless Bigfoot scared the crap out of us and even he would not eat the Gorp in the backpack

Steph and Don are uninjured and safely down and in contact with North Cascades NP regarding Jason. Steve ("Trent" on CascadeClimbers) is injured and recovering in the hopital and will be fine (no head or spinal injuries). Jason is still stuck in the same place high on Mt. Terror and let's hope for him.

wayne1112~ Yes, Steph and Don came out last night.

Thanks, Heinrich/Jason. Your CascadeClimbers note worked and the NCNP was contacted and Jason's girlfriend has been updated. I was told that she has contacted Jason's family. Let's hope the weather improves now for safe return asap. Tonight is his second night out high on the route.

Reply to Woodchips regarding the east ridge of Cinderella: I climbed halfway up the ridge for several hours and bailed down the gulley to the south of the ridge that runs half the total vertical distance of the ridge (easy and obvious bail point). I did not find the description in the Becky guide to be very accurate regarding the number of pitches. It's much longer if pitched out the entire distance. We did it with a 60 meter rope and pitched out each length at about 35-50m due to rope drag (ridge climbing on the T.S. rock results in tons of drag). Our team was not really capable of doing running belays. I would love to go back and climb with a faster climbing buddy and do mostly running belays with about 30m rope between us. The walk off from the summit to the west and then south to the lake is easy (I did it the day before on the approach day). We camped at that lake named...I forget. Have fun and go do it! the rock is pretty good overall but not quite as good as the west ridge of the N. Twin. But, you'll have it to yourself even on the busiest weekend of the year.

joshk~ By the way, you should see KK's rack when he climbs a route that challenges him - it is HUGE!

joshk~ The large rack was needed because the pitches were simul-climbed several hundred feet at a time. Having 12 slings for several hundred feet of terrain does not seem excessive to me. A rack with lots of pieces to choose from to place 12 pieces exactly when/where desired so that one can climb effiently to summit asap seems like a better way to go on an technically moderate climbing route (I call 5.7+ moderate for alpine climbing if leading level is mid 5.10 at the crags). I've wasted incredible amounts of time on routes because I could not find a piece left on my rack to protect a certain 20-foot schetchy section (hence my original comment about 40 foot falls being the same regardless of climbing ability). I'm not trying to change anyone's climbing styles, to each his own. But those who I climb with do tend to place lots of good pro and do tend to also bring an large rack. I can't think of a climb I've done where having a few unused pieces of gear at the end of a pitch/day really bothered me much. Some of us actually like placing gear that that is part of the cool experience of multipitch climbs. This has been fun, but I'm done. It's time to go climb at Mt. Erie on another wonderful day. Has everyone forgotten about the crappy long spring yet? Thanks again for the report KK.

Jeez, Kev, nice first trip report on cc's.com! It has it all: good beta, opinion, encourages others to climb the route, and it inspired lively debate and armchair attacks on your climbing style and capability by people who don't know you. Awesome! There was a weird comment from someone about why would a 5.10+ climber need so much protection? Hopefully that comment was done in jest or under the influence of lots of booze. A 40 foot fall due to a broken hold is the same for a 5.14 climber as it is for a 5.6 climber I think that using "spicy" IS spicy, and once, twice, or 3 times is just right. By the way everyone, Kev is great to climb with and protects routes great without wasting pieces, so I don't doubt they wanted and needed the whole rack to climb the route the way they did (mostly simulclimbing). It's not like you have to worry about an extra pound of gear for an approach like this one. They summitted at 10:30 am, so it seems like the rack they chose worked out about perfect for them to move efficiently and safely.

Hey cfire: Your footsteps looked like splash zones on the snow and were only about 2 inches deep by the time we saw them above the north face. You saw us at the Beer Shrine? Where were you seated? Go back and climb it when the snow is hard!

I knew someone would ask that. I don't ski things that take two tools to ascend. That's for really good skiers, not our party. The White Salmon was so good to ski that I'll never recommend the Sulfide approach/descent to anyone again (climber or skier).

Trip: Mt. Shuksan - North Face Date: 5/31/2008 Trip Report: Mt. Shuksan – North Face Steve Trent (“Trent”), Scott Bingen and I climbed this route on Friday, May 31, 2008. We really got lucky on the conditions for this wonderful, challenging route. The weather was beautiful! It’s a route worth building up to in your North Cascades alpine climbing dream list. The north face is long, steep, and committing; however the rest of the climbing and descending for the day is regular snow, glacier, and gully crossing stuff. Lot’s of trip reports can be found on the internet and lots have been written up in climbing route books, so it’s not necessary to go into the route details We left the car at 1:50 am and skied from the White Salmon (lower) ski lodge to the base of chair 8 and then put the skis on our packs for the traverse through the forest. Three hours of hiking and skiing later and were at the base of the north face. About half of this part of the ascent was done on skis. There is a huge avalanche debris pile less than two weeks old that we skirted below on the way to the col below the north face. The north face was mostly firm snow and there was no avalanche or slide activity the entire time we were on it. The north face took us about 4 hours, but took Steve and Scott about 3. After summiting we descended on skis from the base of the summit pyramid at 8600’ across the Sulphide Glacier, and then down the White Salmon Glacier and lower snow fields to 3600’ on excellent corn snow. I was a little sketched-out and tired after about half the north face part of the climb. Feeling less stable on crampon front points than them, I kicked deep, bomber foot buckets into their shallow marks all the way up the route. This took much more time and energy for me. I was physically spent and just thought about hanging in there, made sure I religiously kept 3 points of contact with terra-firma, and went at the pace I hoped I could keep up without cramping or collapsing. For this route you need to expect to solo pretty much the whole thing to save time and energy as well as to stay safe (there may be snow/ice that releases far above you that can windshield-wiper you off the face quickly). I cannot imagine spending more time than we did on the route to belay multiple pitches. The north face is about 2500 feet of 40-60 degree snow/ice climbing, but the majority of the route is about 50 degrees. There is no way to arrest your fall with your ice axe once on the face. The name of the game is to hold on to your tools, keep your energy up, and be efficient! The standard summit route on the south face of the upper pyramid (top 600’ of the peak) spooked me a bit also. The snow was thin and rotten from recent rain and sun melt. Steve belayed me a couple of pitches and on the descent I rappelled the top 400’. We made the summit at 1:00 pm and had the mountain to ourselves with the exception of a team of two that had crossed the Sulfide Glacier and were about an hour behind us. Skiing down 5000 vertical feet on the Sulfide Glacier, White Salmon Glacier, and lower snowfields after such a great climb was icing on the peak. We skied corn snow and had no major problems all the way down to 3600 feet where the traverse back to the lower lodge begins. Sure, we could have saved a few pounds and had better climbing boots for the route if we did not bring ski gear, but the small amount of extra effort was worth it ten-times-over to ski down. We were back at the car drinking beer at 5:40 pm. Gear notes: Day packs, skis, crampons, two ice tools (one standard axe would be ok); one 40 meter rope used on the summit pyramid for two pitches up and 3 raps down; brought 4 liters of water each and needed 5 for the day (we found a water drip on the summit pyramid); lots of easy to consume snacks like Gu and energy bars; one picket each, crevasse rescue gear, headlamps; emergency bivy gear Recommendations: Choose good, capable, fun companions because you may need to depend on their good humor, ability to suffer, and desire to keep going up; brings skis and do it in a day or else go overnight with very light gear and camp at the col next to the north face; start the north face climbing at daybreak with at least 6 servings of food and two litters drink that you can access without removing your pack (we found a ledge about 1/3 the way up to take a break, but don’t expect this); be a comfortable and efficient steep-snow/ice climber before embarking on this adventure; take lots of photos; expect the trip to take longer than you think it should! Trent posted a few of the photos and I'll try to figure out how to post some also ~Wade

The north face approach is in perfect condition. We parked at the lower/White Salmon lodge road entrance where the lock the gate in the summer. We skied from the lodge to Chair 8 and did the traverse from 3600-3800' in the dark without any problems. The gullies were all easily crossable without much looking around and once we broke out of the gullies it was easy and safe to ski all the way to the col at the base of the north face (3 hours from the car all in the dark). I'll try to write up the trip report with photos and post tonight.

I was there Friday, May 31 with a couple of friends. The summit pyramid gully still has snow but it was rather rotten and thin in a few places. Expect to be grabbing rock or drytooling in a couple of places. We wer able to sink a couple of pickets. I'm not very experiences at steep rotten alpine snow and ice climbing, and my two friends were fine with soloing in the conditions we had. I don't know about the Sulphide approach trailhead and trail conditions. There was a party of two coming up the Sulphine and got on the east ridge of the summit pyrmid about an hour behind our ascent. We climbed and descended via different routes (north face up and White Salmon ski down). The NF is in great conditions for the ascent and the White Salmon was corn the whole way down for 5000 feet with very few crevasse issues to deal with.

Update: The ACFL Board meeting last Thursday was well attended by supporters of keeping access open to rock climbing and scrambling routes on Mt. Erie About 70 members of the public attended, and 14 of those spoke out in support of this access issue. A person from the BoAlps and and another from the Washington Alpine Club were there and provided verbal comment (thanks guys!). The ACFL Board, ACFL forest manager (Jonn), and Parks Director (Gary) say that they don't understand what this "Mt. Erie access" concern is based on. They have said that they don't have any plans to "eliminate" climbing on Mt. Erie. That's great, but it's important that the management plan states it in writing so that it guides the forest manager and Board on appropriate management of Mt. Erie in the near and far future. They are now reviewing the draft 2008 ACFL Management Plan language more closely to determine what the problem is (from the climber and scrambler perspective) and what could be changed (that's good). It is very important that they receive written comments that describe the problems with the specific pieces of language in the draft plan that make it a concern to people who like to rock climb and scramble on Mt. Erie. I'm up to over 4 pages of comments at the moment and will be submitting mine to the Parks Director and ACFL Board by the end of the week. I'll also provid it to CascadeClimbers.com and other groups (mattp) and anyone is free to read and use them. I hope that my comments will give some of you out there more solid understanding of why I began this forum topic. I hope that many people make specific written comments to give them some concrete understand and direction about the problem with this draft plan. The ACFL Board and Parks Director needs comments in writing as soon as possible, but not later than April 30. The Board decided to allow more comments in person at their next meeting May 1. If you have any questions for me please feel free to pm me (personal message, right?) Or just email me directly at bessettw@hotmaildotcom. Thanks!

I'm the one who started this post and just wanted to comment on what's been said here (everyone's comments) and add a few things. For starters, I've been giving my perspective in writing because I expect to be held accountable for what I say. It is my feeling that the ACFL Board and land manager has not been as open with their ideas and intentions. All I care about with this issue is that the existing trails and rockclimbing routes on Mt. Erie remain available for recreational and instructional use in a reasonable manner. Poster "mattp" commented about his discussion with an staff person for the Parks department. I assume this is Jonn Lundsford, the ACFL forest lands manager. Jonn's comment that "...some of the information posted here may be inaccurate in that there are no specific plans for the trails on Mount Erie at this time." is interesting. It is easy to accuse someone of doing something wrong or lying, but the accusation is empty without saying what is wrong or what lie is said. The draft plan, existing 1991 plan, my volunteer time on the ACFL Mt.Erie working group at the request of the Board, and the several Board meetings I've attended have given me solid reason to expect that the Board and land manager plan to make a huge reduction to hiking and climbing on Mt. Erie. I'm not stupid and neither are they. They would likely throw a few bones in the form of a few high use climbiing walls and then "not approve" of the 85% of the other trails and rock climbing routes, like the upper wall, powerline wall, sunset slabs, and a few routes on snag Buttress. I think that Jonn's comment that "It IS in their general plan, he says, to reduce trails and they MAY decide to reduce or reroute some of the trails on the south slope of Mt. Erie" is a primary issue and a good example of how the Board and land manager (Jonn) have described their plan for Mt. Erie. What's not clear from this statement is how far they will go and who makes those decisions. Neither the Board or Jonn use or are familiar with Mt.Erie. The Board members have no interests and for the most part capablility of even accessing this area. I will be proposing that the Board forms a Mt. Erie trails and rock climbing committee whose purpose is to address public concerns about this area and makes recommendations back to the Board. Mt. Erie has been develop slowly over the last 40 years by scramblers and rock climbers. Those who know and love this area are in the best position and have the strongest interests to protect it for themselves and others in the future. Jonn's comment that "most of their management concerns have had to do with large instructional groups and recreational climbers are likely to see little change" is interesting. So, if that was the primary issue and they have resolved it by essentially banning groups from use due to the difficulty in getting approved through their "process", and since the Anacortes citizens do not want any change to the management of the ACFL (lack of public complaints to the city and also data directly from the September 2007 Parks department community telephone survey of 300 Anacortes households), they why do they feel they need to do anything? They, the Board and the land manager, are following their own desires, not the public's. They want to impose their desires on the ACFL, including Mt. Erie, and I don't think their desires are reasonable. Mattp states that "though he certainly indicated that nothing is certain at this point as the process is still under way" is an important one. Right now is the time to assure that Mt. Erie remains open in entirety (current trails, scramble routes, and rock routes) and that any changes to be made are based on the community's desires and knowledge from those who know the area best. Yes, there is a chance that no major negative actions (the reduction of existing trails and routes) if people are silent and ask for nothing. But, I think that chance is slim and that big changes are in store and people who try to climb on Mt. Erie in the near and far futures will be the losers in this management plan if left alone to the Board and land manager now. Once lost, a thing like a climbing area, trails, or even individual walls/routes will be very hard or impossible to regain. I'll be at the meeting and make my issues known. A few of you have emailed me directly with questions or comments. Several of you and many others I know have already written Gary (Parks department director; gary@cityofanacortes.org) to state your concerns - thank you for doing this. Once the meeting is done I'll try to sum it up for CC's by Saturday night. Wade

Sorry, I posted this on the Climbers Forum for broader audience viewing. Please make comments there. Wade

***The ACFL Board meeting is tonight at 7:00 pm (see below for details). They are not recording the meeting, so comments need to be provided in writing if you want them to be kept by the city for consideration. The city is now saying that they will also receive comments at the May 1 ACFL Board meeting. Access to hiking trails and rock climbing routes on Mt. Erie (near Anacortes- WA) is going to be shut down, if the governing authority has its way. A small group of people is making plans to change how this area and others in the Anacortes City Forest Lands (ACFL) are managed. The only way to change this is by attending the April 3rd 7:00 pm ACFL Board meeting at the Fidalgo/Senior Center at 1701 22nd Street in Anacortes. This is the primary public meeting scheduled before the public comment period is over April 30 and before the draft plan is passed on to the Planning Dept. Attendance at this meeting by as many supporters and concerned citizens is crucial to show that local residents care about their continued access to this area. This process has been moving forward rather quickly with little public notification to date. I hope at least 100 people citizens attend and make their concerns known! See skagit alpine club web site skagitalpineclub.com for more info later today (Saturday) we hope. If anyone can help me figure out how to do an attached document I'll provide my two-page writeup that contains a better overview of the issue. The Access Fund has been contacted for help with ideas on how to fight for access rights. Most local climbers and hikers/scramblers who would be interested in this issue probably do not know about the concern. I and a few others are trying to get the word out. Climbers have not been recognized as a user group in the city park system (Anacortes City Forest Lands) and need to be soon, otherwise our interests will be ignored. Page 16 of the draft plan: "Existing scramble trails will be reviewed for approval or removal by the Forest Advisory Board. Climbing routes need approval from the Forest Advisory Board before construction." This may not sound scary unless you know understand two points: 1.) The ACFL Board and forest land manager want to change the primary purpose or goal of the ACFL from recreation use (today) to resource conservation (draft plan), and 2.) All trails not on the official ACFL trails map are considered illegal, off limits, and use of them is punishable by fine and jail time. ALL trails used to access ALL rock climbing routes and the routes themselves on Mt. Erie are, by the proposed definition, "illegal" trails, even though some have been in use for 40 or more years. Also, the Board and manager do not use nor understand the use of Mt.Erie for rock climbing and hiking. Write the Parks Dept. manager Gary Robinson at gary@cityofanacortes.org if you are interested in Mt. Erie remaining a great place to climb in the future. For questions please feel free to contact me (Wade) at bessettw@hotmail.com.

See Mt. Erie post on Climbers Forum. Climbers Board Thread Meeting: Rock CLimbing at Mount Erie is in serious jeopardy. Please attend the April 3rd 7:00 pm ACFL Board meeting at the Fidalgo/Senior Center at 1701 22nd Street in Anacortes. This is the primary public meeting scheduled before the public comment period is over April 30