edmona

Interesting problem; never really thought about it. Probably as many solutions exist as users of that product.

I was captured by the Lutherans once when they wouldn't take us down to the dock; it was Sunday. Only option was to spend the night with them. Unless you could handle the 10k run to the dock in leather tele boots; I was slowed by randonee equipment. Oh well. We finally got home the next day. Watch those Lutherans. Skip E.

I believe this is the route several friends and I did the first winter ascent of, back in the mid 70's. It was a low snow winter and a bit more sketchy but we weren't carrying skis either. Looks like you had a good day. Skip Edmonds

Peter - you're carrying the torch well, my friend. I hope your girlfriend is recovering (really). Skip E.

Any suggestions on how to find the start of Dreamer these days? The new routes up there confused me as to the correct start (I climbed Dreamer long ago, 15 yr probably). Thanks, edmona