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Ivan, meet Prole. hey, i'm all ears - dude, prole, how do you justify your existence? A. I said "jobs", not "work", you cretin. There's a difference. Consider it. B. I don't have to justify my existence to anyone or anything. That's what it means to be free and white on Saturday night in the greatest country on Earth. C. Y'all need to be more worried about my spray and less worried about my personal life.

No, that's Jay_B!

You've got that market cornered all by yourself.

Because it has to scare the shit out of people to get them to work in meaningless jobs?

All of a sudden every granola-yup in the PNW has just got to have chickens for their yard. And two children. And a dog. What the hell? This Depression is clearly not working for some of these people.

I wouldn't move up here. It's full of smug, self-absorbed yuppies with baby strollers and chickens and hipster-type douchebags. And it's whiter than a Tea-Party protest. Can't wait to leave...

I think what you'd find if you did look into it (don't worry we know you won't) is that the incentives to profit have taken the policies Kojak mentions from the realms of "cheating customers" into Standard Operating Procedure across the industry. At any rate, great post. You managed to avoid any question of the $12,900,000,000 in profits made in 2007 (a 400% increase since 2000), implied that too much regulation is really the problem, and suggest we carry on an endless(?) fact-finding mission to gather "all the evidence necessary" before doing anything that might impinge on those profits. You'd have made a great anti-Abolitionist Jay!

Why bother? "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table...I have no interest in doing it." --Barney Frank responding to a question from a woman holding a picture President Obama with an Adolf Hitler-like mustache drawn above his lip at a recent town hall meeting.

Frank Zappa is overrated.

Basic things being $8,000 for an emergency room visit?

Do you make more than $200,000+ a year? You wouldn't pay higher taxes under some of the proposals. Unfortunately, this provision is likely to be struck under any compromise with Republicans (who're fighting for the common man, of course). I heard all businesses would be hit with a payroll deduction under some of these proposals - whether or not your employer already pays for (some or all) of you health insurance. That is a new tax and if true, is bullshit. If I *want* to go with the public option, then I should be apply to apply my employer-paid portion to the public option, but I should not have to fund it if I am already getting coverage that I am happy with. I hear ya. I feel the same way about my tax money going to fund wars for US corporations. Anyway, I'd be interested to hear more about the payroll deduction "if it's true".

Do you make more than $200,000+ a year? You wouldn't pay higher taxes under some of the proposals. Unfortunately, this provision is likely to be struck under any compromise with Republicans (who're fighting for the common man, of course).

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Surrender to irrational fear and willful blindness to their own interests are the hallmarks of the conservative "movement", at least among the middle and working class. Self-immolation in the service of corporate power has been a recurring theme in Western history and the inevitable fate of the Angry White Man, the Scab, and the Kapo. You can see the contradiction in almost every post-tirade interview with the town-hall blowhards. The interviewer asks about the blowhard's own health-care situation to which they inevitably answer, "I like my plan, I'm working three jobs, I have a $5000 deductible, if I get sick I'll be indebted for the rest of my life, but I heard the public option is a Trojan Horse for an alien invasion."

Oh? Which freedoms were you thinking of specifically that you've sacrificed lately? Better yet, which of your freedoms specifically are under threat from the public option health care proposals currently before Congress?

Oh please. Stop me if you've heard this one before: "Like your health insurance? Fine. Keep it. The public option plan is just that, an option." Personally, I'd like the freedom to be able to choose the option being put forth by the Obama Administration. If anyone's rights are being infringed upon, it's the people who're un and/or underinsured who'd like to have access to some goddamn health-care. But sure, if you want to carry on about the abrogation of your health care contract, I'm sure we'd all love to get some detailed clarification on that. Looking forward to it.

Yes, and we're all still waiting for that smoking gun that details how any of the public option health care proposals under consideration in Congress are "tyrannical". Do let us know when you find it.

This would probably be a better time for one of your monologues on the dangers of mob rule. But for some reason I don't think that's coming.

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I would look for the following: Fiscal responsibility Business friendly Limited Government Balanced, forward-thinking energy policy I would accept other positions not on the list and normally associated with the "left" if the net of the policies was better than what we have now (or under Bush). Examples include: Health care reform Environmental policies Reducing presence in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere; shift in foreign policy overall I'm not looking for a "moderate" party, riding the center, but one which stakes positions and works to fulfill their promises. If the party pisses off about 20% of the population on each side of the current political divide, that is a good thing. Also, we need a government that stops telling everyone what they want to hear, brush problems under the carpet, and bribe voters with payouts. Yes, yes. All well and good, very middle of the road, moderate, centrist position. Like drowning in marshmallow. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, WHAT'RE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS:

Okay, okay, sorry. Now seriously, what third parties out there do you like? Weren't you down with the Libertarians? Where are they on some of the issues right now? What would be an ideal 3 or 5 or 10 point platform for you right now? What is it going to take to make a third party viable in this country? Constitutional amendment? On a left-right continuum, where might a successful third party draw its founding ideas and basis for policy prescriptions?

Like JAY-zuss?

Like the South?

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The Starting Nine: CF Bobby Jindal 2B Glenn Beck 3B Newt Gingrich 1B Rush Limbaugh RF Joe the Plumber RF Michele Bachmann SS Mike Huckabee C Ashley Todd P Sarah Palin I don't think these morons are going to make it too far into the postseason...