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“The U.S. Forest Service remains committed to the First Amendment,” agency Chief Tom Tidwell said. “The directive pertains to commercial photography and filming only. If you’re there to gather news or take recreational photographs, no permit would be required.” “This proposed regulation is just one example of the kind of federal overreach that comes when we lock up our public lands in wilderness designations,” Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, the top Republican on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, said Friday. (DRILL BABY DRILL)

And I am definitely NOT saying he FS isn't wrong or even off its rocker here or many other times; I just don't trust the "reporting" on this one. Seems more sensational and click on that banner driven than substantial.

They already and for many years have been issuing permits for this stuff, they are simply trying to make uniform and even rules that apply everywhere. Here in Wyo the latest rage is to "give" billions and maybe trillions of dollars worth of land to the states (read for industrial exploitation), even though these GOP types decry "handouts". Guess other citizens in states elsewhere might view this "gift" as a handout. But the point is there has been a lot of nonsense and anti fed "reporting" and it is definitely yet another attack in that war on public lands. BTW not sure why this particular commercial use should be excluded from regulation when commercial guides and outfitters are not.

Howdy all, RE: Forest Service Wilderness Photo fees....... Was going to post a reply but you all have run so far off of the farm (and reality) I thought maybe I would do a little reframing. First off, from my perspective this is yet another example of the "Free Press" (maybe the "paid press") running off foaming at the mouth to shock the public about the bad conduct of the "federal government". I.e. catering to the 2014 edition of sedition aka the "sagebrush rebellion." What really cracks me up is that the FS and its rule expressly excludes news gathering (either of a discreet incident, a serial edition or a long term project) from the fee. All the while "journalists" are decrying the end of journalism in wilderness (not that I have seen many if any real journalists anywhere near the actual outdoors). Apparently our intrepid journalists are once again either too dumb or too dishonest to do any research. Secondly, as things stand there is a total hodgepodge of local district rules regarding COMMERCIAL (i.e. not news but strictly for $$) filming in wilderness and this rule is an attempt to provide one overarching and perhaps fair policy. Kinda seems a good idea as it would rob local dictators of their little fake and arbitrary fiefdoms. And last but not least please do keep in mind that the $$ behind the anti-fed thing wants to frack, mine and cut the Fu*k out of our public lands. A little disappointed that those who enjoy those wild places cant be bothered to do more than (apparently) get their britches in a bunch over something they saw on Fox and/or Facebook. Anyhow, thought maybe you all could post a few more germane facts than found on the other thread which is, it seems, one of those inevitable ones where the "Spray" Lords overrun the Climber's Post.

Make sure they fit crampons, had big problems with the Syder Kevlar and too much rocker in the sole, and oh yeah one midsole shattered and that boot was floppy like a sandal.

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No ideas here except send it in! Just judging by the size of the tent--you go with partners--so let them supply tentage until you get it back. Have had very good luck with MH warranty BTW.

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