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Can we go back to talking about bolts now?

I believe Masterpiece to not be missing any hangers……cheers.

Go Blazers.

The climb in the picture is called Masterpiece Theatre. It’s a cool climb and you should get on it if you climb the grade.

No no no.....Obama sent Jedi.

Ozone........

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Dude.....alot of smith climbs are run out.

Very subjective title bro.....

Congrats...

I dont think he was talking about Trout Creek. This was the place I had in mind... Oh....well there is another place near there as well.....

I dont think he was talking about Trout Creek.

Bro……I think the idea of a no bolt crag is kind of neat…..just not sustainable. I wish that you owned the land it sat on….then you truly would be the climbing Czar. I also see a no bolt crag as a pain in the ass crag. Craging for me is supposed to be fun. Get in lots of pitches. I wont lie…..to me its all about convenience. Pull the rope, stack it ten feet down, tie on and off you go on route number 3 for the day…..repeat until the sun goes down. So it would be nice to visit this crag once or twice….but my time is limited so I might choose to go somewhere else….. You write your book. Enjoy……..

Ok ladies....put your dog down and next grab your pussies.

Nothing, but the way you have presented the situation sort of comes off that way. Acting like you own Moolack and trying to spray that through this thread. I think its rad you are stoked on the boltless climbing, wich can be quite fun. But were talking about Moolack here wich to me is a crag. Its not some huge alpine wall. Its not in the wilderness. Most of the routes I gather require extensive cleaning on TR. Theres not much golden age history invovled with the place. So IMO Moolack doesnt really lend itself to this hard core no bolts gritstone ethical chest beating battle. I've learned its best not to try and dictate what other people do climbing, I mean its why we choose to climb right because of the freedom to do what YOU want. Just like you have the right to put up R rated routes on rappel with inconvenient anchors in a crag setting, why doesnt the next guy not have the right to put a couple bolts in on the face next door. The Menagerie lends itself to the ground up hand drilling ethic because its a wilderness, and well spires and summits need to be climbed from the ground up. But besides the laws and the terrain dictating the ethic, there isnt some climbing czar telling you how you have to put your route up. You might as well not out Moolack, because that only gets you closer to seeing bolts there. Its well enought known now that if someone really cared to climb like that I know they could figure it out. Thats kind of the thing this is climbing in the 21st century and most climbers don't go to a crag to try to push the limits of LNT climbing. If your really that concerned with LNT tactics at the crag I'm even more shocked you want to out the place. I hope you continue to put up routes in the style you choose, because its great to see the ethic still practicd. But I'm not going to cry at all if someone comes and bolts a line or just an anchor at Moolack. :tup: :tup:

oh....you must not have scrolled down on that post.....it read.... just kidding. I would never disrespect those who came before me. It was a troll. Remember……spray master…..

Jesus dude…..you are the master of speculation. Didn’t you say earlier that you don’t know me from Adam? Therefore you cannot make such a statement about “why” I set routes solely because I disagree with Leo…….. I disagree with Leo and all of a sudden I am some bad climber who is ruining your trip. Wake up brother…….

Panties in a bunch? Coming from someone who has helped with the development of a crag....me.....I would say it is safe to say. Everyone climbs for a different reason. Please do not judge me for why I climb and set routes. And I will not judge you. I never said Leo was an idiot. Just that I disagree with what was written.

You may be the climbing Czar....but I am the spray master. Now bow...... before you bow.....lets go climbing.

I could not disagree more.

Post of the day. Thats the spirit. Don’t get your panties in a bunch over a bunch of interweb talk. I don’t know you any more than you know me. I would not ever disrespect those who came before me in terms of climbing and cragging……. Carry on……

hahahah....wait, you are serious. What about a free solo crag only? No gear can be used....it might scratch the rock.

That is because the rock is not alive. It does not feel or care what happens to it. You guys and your "damage to the rock" mentality........what about the tree’s killed to pave the road you drove on to get to the crag…..where were you when that happened?

To you Kevin. It "sounds like a huge waste of rock" TO YOU. Which is why you won't be climbing there. You know that you are not speaking for me and obviously some others. Yes.....to me Bill. That is right. When I post....I only post my opinion. To leave beautiful faces (if there are such there) that can only protect with bolts....is a waste of precious rock. There is only so much rock to go around.....God I wish I was single with a shit load of time on my hands.....i would come down there and add a few bolts and there would nothing anyone could do about it...... chop chop chop.... drill drill drill...... chop chop chop...... drill drill drill....... just kidding.