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dru, those girls are ready to be anybody's nightshirt...especially a warrior's. make love after war.

Dru, Einstein, sheinstein. I'm talking about a basic voice inside you, telling you who you are. People who are out in the street committing acts of civil disobedience and really crying "look at me!" make me sick. Another set of people want to wring their hands or hide under the bed. They can't help it, I guess they are the progeny of passive hippies, or Dad was de-nutted by Mom before they were born. The third set of people can't help but look at the actual fighting with interest, and maybe wish they were there. I know which category I fit into. I'm at peace with it. The ones I have a bone to pick with are in the first category.

The only laugh I've gotten out of this current skirmish is a snippet I caught on NPR yesterday. An earnest-sounding young female reporter asks a retired military guy (I think) "In the 1991 Gulf War, was there a point in the conflict where you underestimated the Iraqi military?" "UNDERestimated the Iraqis?!" he exclaimed.

"Man's greatest good fortune is to chase and defeat his enemy, seize his total possessions, leave his married women weeping and wailing, ride his gelding, and use the bodies of his women as a nightshirt." It looks to me like the average man in the middle east and/or in asia has the warrior spirit a hell of a lot more than you boobs who are posting here. What I'm talking about transcends this current conflict. It's plain that quite a number of you are passivist to the core. If we ever get into a real conflict, I'm worried for your children. Here's to you warriors amongst sheep.

Iain, I ain't defending the quagmire...and I'm not going to voice criticisms while the conflict is on. From a war standpoint, the protests only take away from the image of a determined adversary, and thus can only serve to drag the conflict out because Iraqis hold out some hope that it will stop. True, the tv coverage of the protests may not have much effect, but any is bad.

minx I think that you are looking for someone to 'defend' what's being done. I think the current admin sees Iraq as serving as a "platform" in the area---a democratic 'seed state,' a military base platform, etc.

I more I read Necro's posts, the more I understand the Caveman...

minx, read the lead article in today's Wall Street Journal on Bush's goals. Whether you agree with it or not, I think it describes what his motivations are. The subject of oil keeps coming up, even tho there have been assurances that oil belongs to Iraq and the $ will be used to rebuild. The thing that most people have forgotten is that prior to the Arab oilfield 'nationalization' that Kadaffi started back in the '70s, the oil companies owned the oil rights. This transfer of wealth was the single largest in history.

they have a Romanian climber with a testimonial for Russian gear on Mt. Whitney?

I have only this as a reply: Have fun!

what kind of elitist group is this... the top 25?! I'm 10 posts behind the 25th...

whew...what an expedition. I had to go to Irian Jaya, where I was almost eaten by natives, to find that fish. But I got it...it's a Wobbegong.

5. Notorious sex pest of the animal world has the perfect excuse for serial groping The Independent (UK) By Andrew Buncombe in Washington 03 January 2003 Pity the poor male greater blue-ringed octopus. And pity his girlfriends as well. The native of Australia is notorious as the king groper of the animal world, famous for fondling its partners with a specially modified arm before mating. But researchers from California have discovered that far from being a sex pest, poor old Hapalochlaena lunulata has a perfectly reasonably excuse for his behaviour. Scientists from the UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA discovered that the octopus, who is common to the Pacific and Indian oceans, does not initially know if he is dealing with a male or a female and is as likely to grope one as the other. Finding a partner is a shot in the dark. The researchers, MARY CHENG AND ROY CALDWELL [OF UC BERKELEY], writing in Nature Australia magazine, studied 15 encounters between male octopuses and nine between a male and a female....

mattp, You and I may share the same feeling about where we are. I just strongly disagree with your statement that a lot of Americans are going to die, on the battlefield and/or here. I think that Necro et al sound like a bunch of wimps, and when our country is in a fight, we don't need people in the homeland sounding like candyasses. There are probably 10-years-olds in Pakistan reading Necro's post and laughing about the pansies in the PNW. Even if we don't agree with our leadership about what's going on, it's time to keep a stiff upper lip until things are over.

Did my pc crap out? Where'd it go? Forget it...I found it...I need glasses.

Alarmist pap. For the record, I don't like how we got here. But it wears pretty poorly on us to be wringing our hands over here instead of backing our bretheren who are in harm's way as we speak.

it doesn't look like a nurse shark to me

well I wasn't really concentrating on this ID quiz cuz I have been searching for a buttcrack photo for use as an avatar...but I give up..

It's a spiny spotted long-finned eel (add/delete descriptors until correct)

is it an elasmobranch

spotted dick...whoops..no

This thread has jumped the

did you get into some last night or something?

Nope, that's not what I meant. Bush got pulled down the street by the Rottweiler on the leash. (his fault) BTW, I do not think homo sapiens is any different than he was in 1938. There is no modern world wisdom when things get unstable. Don't kid yourself.

PS, way to go Rumsfeld (the real Goering, Billygoat), and way to go Bush for not reigning the sumbitch in. But we are where we are. It's time for us to shut up and save the carping until it's over.