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symptomatic of the success JayB appears to have with his smooth talking, dodging, cherry picking, etc ...

Fairweather is upset that I am calling his jackbooted, fear-inducing tactics for what they are. Not to mention his systematic Koch-sucking for the looting plutocracy.

i don't think he ever said this, to be fair. i believe JayB is against violence of any kind. and, to be fair again, violence i presume is a bit of an abstract for most people posting here. it is symptomatic that you assume JayB being against violence or terror, when in fact he is the consummate teflon man like the gipper who'll avoid answering questions and taking positions that would show his true nature: someone who believes that all ends justify the means including mass murder as long as one is sure to call it collateral damage and spew about freedom a lot. Not only is Hugh correct that JayB was a huge supporter of attacking Iraq and Afghanistan but he has always justified the policies of aiding violent coups and subsequent repression against the left that ever came up in discussions (for example he is fully aligned with Hayek's supports for the chilean Pinochet dictatorship as a necessary evil, albeit a temporary one), and although we haven't specifically discussed it you can bet he'd justify what happened in Argentina and our support of it too. So although he didn't say it was a picnic, it is fair to assume he would and he astutely won't respond anyway. For the record, there is a difference between violence and terror. Hunting down, torturing and disappearing leftists and their families is indeed violent but it is also the use of systematic terror by the state to incite fear and prevent all expressions of dissent to authoritarian rule.

what about that one? 22,000 people murdered or disappeared As we all know, torturing and disappearing left wingers isn't terror, it's a picnic according to JayB.

here is one for the road for JayB so that he can consider the various uses of terror: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=School_of_the_Americas

as if it were impossible to condemn unconditionally on bases that do not include claiming that Islam is the root of all evil. to people like JayB, ancient barbarian practices are a hundred fold more evil than modern barbarian practices. He has yet to explain why stoning adulterers is so much more evil than Reagan arming the contras to butcher peasants, doctors and teachers, but perhaps some day he'll come clean on that one .. although, I am not holding my breath.

More lies from JayB. The left hasn't held its collective tongue regarding human and civil rights abuses in Islamic societies now or 30 years ago when JayB's side was conveniently allied with Islamic extremists because it was expedient to provoke the Soviet Union into military intervention.

neoliberals claim to know nothing of positive feedback on public investment, nor of negative feedback resulting from unregulated economic activity. They only know about positive feedback from private investments, and negative feedback from public economic activity.

JayB still dodges the question of what makes "suicide bombing" more abhorrent than "bombing and getting away with it". Isn't laughing it up at the pool after the deed more disgusting in some twisted relative way?

there must be something about you rob LOLZ but I don't even think that is true. What is true is that we only seem to interact when you have a ludicrous bone to pick with me (from our first interaction ~2 years ago to the racism nonsense that you peddled in recent jousts). I often do end up telling you to shove off because you make little sense. That's my side of the argument, anyway.

Is it then going to be necessary to define insult, insulting language, etc ? I figure people have plenty of opportunity to engage me on civil terms, until they start smearing my person because that is all they can do.

You don't understand what is terrorism. Terror is rarely practiced to kill and maim as many civilians as possible, it's done to murder and maim some civilians in the most public and gruesome fashion possible to incite a) fear and/or b) a totalitarian reaction from the attacked entities thereby exposing internal contradictions. Civilians slaughters and destruction of civilian infrastructure have become a sine qua none part of all modern warfare, whether or not one issues official incantation of restraint in the use of violence toward civilians.

I don't miss that zealot one bit. He'd be eating crow right now after the way the Bush years went down, so would all the abusive conservatards who disappeared/changed handle.

as if any discussion of public subsidy only involved direct subsidy and no consideration of externalized cost. But at least we got you to acknowledge that highways too were subsidized. That's small progress I guess.

Dude, if the use of all insults and personal attacks were a ban-able offense, I suspect there would hardly be a conservative left in spray as of 10 years ago. For the record, I started to use insults mostly as a defense mechanism about 1.5 year ago.

Obama hasn't changed policies toward oil rich nations, before or after the elections. Controlling the oil resource was the reason to invade Iraq, and it is still the reason to be in Iraq today. Nothing's changed.

we have known for decades that OPEC reserves were overestimated by ~1/3. OPEC members inflated their reserve on paper to be granted greater export quota by the cartel right after OPEC formation in the 70's. Everybody knew it except for those with an interest in pretending we haven't reached peak oil, the oil lobby.

Springfield, MA – Peter A. Picknelly, president of Springfield-based Peter Pan Bus Lines Inc., told Congress Thursday that bus companies such as his would have to raise fares if they lose a diesel fuel-tax rebate they’ve been getting since the 1970s. [..] Peter Pan pays the federal tax of 24.3 cents on diesel fuel, but gets 17 cents a gallon of that refunded, eventually paying only 7.3 cents a gallon in taxes. http://www.peterpanbus.com/peter-pan-bus-lines-president-peter-a-picknelly-tells-congress-that-diesel-fuel-tax-rebate-is-critical/

don't bus companies also get refunded for most of the gas tax?

I think what you guys are totally missing is that 'flapping cunt', 'whiny bitch', etc are deliberately misogynist epithets. The entire purpose of these insults is indeed to convey the insulted that he is NOT A MAN, that he is second grade because he is A WOMAN, etc ... but do carry on missing the point.

they don't know who is paying them to win? they don't know they are doing this because they are anti-regulation while they know nothing of climate science?

Someone in their position with half an once of honesty would acknowledge they know fuck all about climate and stfu instead of regurgitating propaganda fed to them by the fossil fuel industry. Dude, and you still wonder why the neanderthals here don't call you a "whiny bitch"? Sheesh!

The military was already the power broker, no? They are now changing figure head to defuse the protests. I bet Hosni and co get away with the $70 billion they stashed away

"Wichita-based Koch Industries and its employees formed the largest single oil and gas donor to members of the [House Energy and Commerce Committee], ahead of giants like Exxon Mobil, contributing $279,500 to 22 of the committee's 31 Republicans, and $32,000 to five Democrats. Nine of the 12 new Republicans on the panel signed a pledge distributed by a Koch-founded advocacy group — Americans for Prosperity — to oppose the Obama administration's proposal to regulate greenhouse gases. Of the six GOP freshman lawmakers on the panel, five benefited from the group's separate advertising and grass-roots activity during the 2010 campaign. Claiming an electoral mandate, Republicans on the committee have launched an agenda of the sort long backed by the Koch brothers. A top early goal: restricting the reach of the Environmental Protection Agency, which oversees the Kochs' core energy businesses." Koch brothers now at heart of GOP power

did you bother reading the story, because it doesn't seem like it. The point is that people who need and benefit most from taxation are the people who vote against taxation.