Muir_on_Saturday

quote: Originally posted by Dan Harris: Here is a column by Dennis Prager that may be food for thought or fuel for the fire. nice link dan. that article stated my earlier point exactly, and was much better written.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: quote:Originally posted by Muir on Saturday: 1) organized religion is evil. Remember: think first, then speak! "2) i keep hearing arabs everywhere say the are not against the u.s., they are just opposed to "u.s. policies". i've come to conclude that when an arab says "u.s. policies" it is a euphemism for "people in the u.s. are not islamic fundamentalists". to hell with all of 'em." There are shitloads more people than just Arabs/Muslims who are anti-US policy and not anti-America. Kind of like being anti-SUV but not anti-car, or anti-sport climbing but not anti-climbing. Don't forget that this is a hot-button, big money issue for the media right now, so you're getting flooded with fear-mongering reports of Muslims causing havoc. If you think about how many Muslims there are in the world, you're smearing the malfeasance of a few on to a great many. i dunno DFA, should you really be coming to the aid of muslims as a group (as individuals is something else - one should never pre-judge). the DFA is normally critical of rightous conservatives, eh? so how do muslims fare with their stands on the role of religion in government and the status of women. i am normally fairly liberal myself, not to the DFA's bleeding heart proportions, but these a-holes have gone too far. but, you say, why generalize from a vocal minority to a passive majority? that is just it, what is the islamic majority doing to control it's extremists? very little it seems. it's happened before. it was called nazi germany. a nation of educated,intelligent individuals stood idly by while a vocal minority committed the greatest atrocities of our century (read "the berlin diaries" by whatshername). ultimately it wasn't stopped till the allies bombed and invaded the place (then all the good germans said "oops what a big mistake, we were never nazis"). ultimately the citizens of a nation are held accountable for the actions of their governement or vocal minority or whatever. it happened to the americans who died on 9/11, and now it may happen to many arabs. face it, it becomes them or us, and it's already started - often referred to as "war".

1) organized religion is evil. 2) i keep hearing arabs everywhere say the are not against the u.s., they are just opposed to "u.s. policies". i've come to conclude that when an arab says "u.s. policies" it is a euphemism for "people in the u.s. are not islamic fundamentalists". to hell with all of 'em.

this totally sucks. i always thought salting roads was just east coast stupidity.

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner:

quote: Originally posted by Son of Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Muir on Saturday: quote:Originally posted by Son of Caveman: gun writer/philosopher that's precious did it make you all warm and fuzzy? just fuzzy

quote: Originally posted by Son of Caveman: gun writer/philosopher that's precious

On an unrelated note, my name now appears on the the "Not in Our Names" petition: web page scroll down to Saturday, Muiron

quote: Originally posted by chucK: that morning dump? coffee? shower? breakfast? going to work? gettting something done at work? what about spanking the monkey?

are those waves related to the alaskan earthquake?

Well, it's taken some serious searching, but at last our good friend Trask found his perfect mate!

quote: Originally posted by trask: Over the years I have developed the notion that there is a definite connection between marksmanship and morality. A good shot is nearly always a good man, and conversely the bad guys usually cannot shoot for sour owl jowls. This proposition cannot be proven, of course, but I think it has to do with the fact that the essence of good marksmanship is self-control, and it seems pretty clear that self-control is the foundation of good morals. Hurray for our side! cooper apparently the williams/mohamed the dc sniper was a pretty good marksman, but then many of his victim's probably didn't even own guns so maybe he was a good guy after all.

quote: Originally posted by cj001f: For a good gun control argument - look at Washington DC- there murder rates down substantially since they banned pistols. do you know where we might see the data on that?

cars = cheating

quote: Originally posted by sketchfest: first stupid thing: watching a tv show about skydiving, promptly going out to the deck (2 stories high) tying a chair to my ass and jumping over the railing. i think we have a winner. so how did you get from "parachute" to "chair"? i can see jumping off the balcony with a big sheet, but why a chair?

there's a little voice inside me saying this shit wouldn't happen if people just smoked more pot.

snafflehounds stealing your weed?

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. Then when you do criticize that person, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.

get well soon dude.

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: dat dere wuz reel god! pleasure bumps?

quote: Originally posted by troubleski: I have been luking for a few months and just started really posting yesterday. When I am in the mood to browse some information I can usually find something that makes me think, when I am in the mood for a laugh or two, again, it is right there. I see this site as less of a climbing community, but more of a community of climbers. The site seems to work for me, but I can imagine how it wouldn't work for a lot of people. maybe it would help if people kept the trip reports in the trips reports section and the spray in the spray.

quote: Originally posted by troubleski: I have been luking for a few months and just started really posting yesterday. When I am in the mood to browse some information I can usually find something that makes me think, when I am in the mood for a laugh or two, again, it is right there. I see this site as less of a climbing community, but more of a community of climbers. The site seems to work for me, but I can imagine how it wouldn't work for a lot of people. maybe it would help if people kept the trip reports in the trips reports section and the spray in the spray.

what goes on here is not very different from any other unmoderated bbs board. it's a natural tendency for people to act this way. one thing i think is interesting is that someone did a study on perceptions of emails a few years back. they found that emails are often percieved by the reader as having a stronger or more critical tone than the writer intended. it seems without vocal intonation we percieve what other people are expressing as more critical or hostile. i think a lot of that goes on here (see for instance the recent accident at vantage thread). somebody says something, then somebody else jumps on him, and then the original poster explains how he didn't mean anything critical about it. given this human tendency, maybe when we read something that sounds a little sarcistic or whatever, when need to take a deep breath, relax, and not get all uptight about. [i didn't intend to say anything critical in this post]

what goes on here is not very different from any other unmoderated bbs board. it's a natural tendency for people to act this way. one thing i think is interesting is that someone did a study on perceptions of emails a few years back. they found that emails are often percieved by the reader as having a stronger or more critical tone than the writer intended. it seems without vocal intonation we percieve what other people are expressing as more critical or hostile. i think a lot of that goes on here (see for instance the recent accident at vantage thread). somebody says something, then somebody else jumps on him, and then the original poster explains how he didn't mean anything critical about it. given this human tendency, maybe when we read something that sounds a little sarcistic or whatever, when need to take a deep breath, relax, and not get all uptight about. [i didn't intend to say anything critical in this post]