RuMR

no mark other than a slight reddish tinge that disappeared within 2 minutes...I will sit down with anyone and discuss my parenting...there is nothing i have to hide...have at it... Like i said, its very few and far between when spankings are handed out and its after all other alternatives have been exhausted... in this example the welfare of the toddler was at stake and we were desparate to end the behavior. I understand that there were underlying causes, jealousy of older brother/younger sister, no sense of control, no sense of power, maybe a need for more individual attention. And we worked on those (and are still working on them) but this doesn't change the fact that this particular behavior needed to STOP NOW due to the risk to the toddler.... FWIW, the threat of the spank is rarely rarely used...its done with an open hand across the back of the leg in a visible spot.

any kind of extreme can be found...do you have your own children? Situation... 4 1/2 year old boy/ 18 month old toddler... 4 1/2 yo keeps pushing toddler down...parents are extremely patient, keep trying to explain that pushing said toddler down is not appropriate, will likely get child hurt, "do unto others...blah blah"...to no avail...now 4 year old has upped the ante...and has begun pushing toddler DOWN THE STAIRS...at first, only the last step, but its onto hardwood floor... Parent now is worried about serious damage to the toddler (read: concussions, split lips, possible death if falling into brick mantle, etc. etc. etc.) and is no longer willing to "exercise patience". Parent explains carefully "Son, I've explained this to you why you can't do this. You continue to do it. The very next time you do it, i will be giving you a spanking across the back of your leg"...Parent asks child "do you understand?" "what do i mean?" and gets satisfactory explanations and descriptions so there is NO DOUBT that everything is crystal clear... 4 y o decides to "see what happens"...toddler gets launched by brother...4 y o shorts come down and SMACK...pushing has now ceased and never happened again... Children are not stupid and need to have FIRM boundaries

but i'm surprised that no one commented on the boltless attempt of the BY!! That's some sick shit...

yeah...but you take it to a professional level...

you're conservative???

but i think his momma dropped him on his head maybe once too many times...

obviously, kevbeenboned was not beaten enough as a child for the rest of us...

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to what? kevbonebedamned? Or first-rate dad??

what weekend izzit??

your view is highly biased and compromised...but in my *unbiased* and very *professional* point of view as a totally competent and first rate dad, my kids would totally dominate any situation...they have to, or they'll be receivin' a whippin' they'll never forget...kevbonebedamned...

whatever rudy. my kid is better than your kids. I'll take that wager and give you odds...

the camping up there is A W E S O M E....not to mention that you can just stay at whistler also... 11worthless is a pile... i'd rather go to index/goldbar...

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you're still a fag so...you excited for 3rd grade?

not likely that you know what kind of parent i am because of some posts on here...I could make the same comment about you and the potential of your offspring, but that would be presumptuous... FWIW, my kids flat out rock...they are upstanding, respectful kids...kick ass in school, try hard in sports, listen to teachers and are generally pleasant people to be around. Maybe, its in spite of me, not because of me...but i like to think that i have a fair bit of influence... most of the times a simple word or brief discussion over the merits or lack of merits of some of their choices is enough to "fix" issues... I do not discipline them lightly, and conversely, its not pleasant when it comes to that...for me or them... Do not pretend to tell others the *right* way of parenting...if i look over at *your* situation and see some *out of control* punk kid running the show, I just might have some *choice* words for you. You come off as a total arrogant asshole with no real regard for what the situation really is... a kumbaya to you, asshole...

i did a very similar thing...looking back, my dad was flat awesome and showed remarkable restraint, but he sure knew how (and when) to use his belt, and i thank him for it...

kevin...you have no idea what kind of parent i am... now, on that note, why don't you go have a bongo sesh with your offspring, maybe pass the bowl around and bond with junior, and then explain to him how he is not a tool, despite the fact that he'll have no respect for authority, but its not his fault like... stupid people should not breed...

not acceptable in your book...there are many shades of black and white...

doesn't sound any worse than my dad when i was acting like a tool...

oh...and kev...i'm "bored"?? WTF...guess i could go back to calling you a fag or sumpin' constructive like that...

New River Gorge and vicinity...

are you back at RW? We should hit index or sumpin'!