RuMR

when you say "no such thing" to spankings used in an appropriate manner, you are saying they are inappropriate. The definition of "inappropriate" is "wrong". Hence you just said that spankings are inappropriate or wrong. Dumbass...

single set w/ maybe an extra gold camalot or red camalot (or equivalent)...

So which one was it? Spankings, or whipping the shit out of you? You make them sound interchangeable, whereas in my book, they clearly are not. well said sobo... and matt, until you have kids, i don't put much weight on your thoughts...as sobo put it earlier, some kids, a simple word or discussion is all that it takes, others, well...they like to toe the line and sometimes step over it... It was more Kev's dogmatic approach that no matter what, corporal punishment is wrong...well, that's his view, but its not mine... I don't beat the shit out of my kids, i don't whip the shit out of my kids, but, if i feel its warranted, I will spank with an open hand, once across the back of the legs...i can count the number of times that its happened on one hand...

so...have you showed little Jr. how to spark a bowel yet? that's what i call dead end parenting...

exactly minx... since when did an occasional spanking become a beating??

that is one of my points of exposing the leg...he gets to "explain" it...its really irrelevent anyway as i hardly smack them...just the thought that i might is enough... My dad sounds a lot like your dad...we walked all over my mom until she would casually drop the "Well, i guess you and your dad will have to discuss this tonight when he gets home" comment...we straightened up real quick... that said, i ALWAYS enjoyed hanging with pop, whether it was fishing, campin' or whatever...

that's an excellent example for kev...he's still a pillow biter according to Pink...

just look at the trees in the viewfinder...duh...or qd's hanging on the harness...

well...when permanent brain injury is a potential issue, i'm no longer gonna exercise patience and i'm going to stop the behavior immediately...i'm telling you we tried literally everything short of tying him down...i just couldn't risk it... haven't had a problem since, but i honestly can't say its cuz of the spanking as we've also made dedicated efforts to devote more one on one time to him...it could be that he's old enough now that the problem is self-corrected...i just don't know...

I just figured if there were truly that many kids and adults involved why did it take so long to come out?????

Caining? kevbone...i'd like to wonder what you would do in this case?? Would you let your toddler get hurt, maybe permanently, so as not risk "caining" your child? The point of the back of the leg is its all muscle...yeah, it smarts...

this must make your job somewhat difficult since it is not a black and white world and very gray...there is obviously stuff that is flatass wrong, but then there are the borderline conditions...tough tough...

no mark other than a slight reddish tinge that disappeared within 2 minutes...I will sit down with anyone and discuss my parenting...there is nothing i have to hide...have at it... Like i said, its very few and far between when spankings are handed out and its after all other alternatives have been exhausted... in this example the welfare of the toddler was at stake and we were desparate to end the behavior. I understand that there were underlying causes, jealousy of older brother/younger sister, no sense of control, no sense of power, maybe a need for more individual attention. And we worked on those (and are still working on them) but this doesn't change the fact that this particular behavior needed to STOP NOW due to the risk to the toddler.... FWIW, the threat of the spank is rarely rarely used...its done with an open hand across the back of the leg in a visible spot.

any kind of extreme can be found...do you have your own children? Situation... 4 1/2 year old boy/ 18 month old toddler... 4 1/2 yo keeps pushing toddler down...parents are extremely patient, keep trying to explain that pushing said toddler down is not appropriate, will likely get child hurt, "do unto others...blah blah"...to no avail...now 4 year old has upped the ante...and has begun pushing toddler DOWN THE STAIRS...at first, only the last step, but its onto hardwood floor... Parent now is worried about serious damage to the toddler (read: concussions, split lips, possible death if falling into brick mantle, etc. etc. etc.) and is no longer willing to "exercise patience". Parent explains carefully "Son, I've explained this to you why you can't do this. You continue to do it. The very next time you do it, i will be giving you a spanking across the back of your leg"...Parent asks child "do you understand?" "what do i mean?" and gets satisfactory explanations and descriptions so there is NO DOUBT that everything is crystal clear... 4 y o decides to "see what happens"...toddler gets launched by brother...4 y o shorts come down and SMACK...pushing has now ceased and never happened again... Children are not stupid and need to have FIRM boundaries

but i'm surprised that no one commented on the boltless attempt of the BY!! That's some sick shit...

yeah...but you take it to a professional level...

you're conservative???

but i think his momma dropped him on his head maybe once too many times...

obviously, kevbeenboned was not beaten enough as a child for the rest of us...

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to what? kevbonebedamned? Or first-rate dad??

what weekend izzit??

your view is highly biased and compromised...but in my *unbiased* and very *professional* point of view as a totally competent and first rate dad, my kids would totally dominate any situation...they have to, or they'll be receivin' a whippin' they'll never forget...kevbonebedamned...