RuMR

nice change to my title, bitches...

This whole freaking website is a joke/pointless exercise...you think it represents anything other than some yahoos bored at work????? Poop didn't choose to debate back...go read through the thread... PS: don't tell me how to argue/debate...i really give a fuck what pope thinks...or you for that matter...

quit deleting my frickin' posts, mods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shoot me a pm...i'm good to go on just about anything dealing with rock...

MY point is that you will never reach compromise with an idiot...so why bother...he completely avoided my arguments about pins vs. bolts with a circumnavigating post....so fine...he gets a big ol' fuck off/you....you can have one too as i have a whole case of 'em right here... Yeah, its emotional and yeah its reactionary...so what's your fucking point???

hmmm...lemme think about this...fuck you too... ahhh there...i feel all better now...

izzat clear enough? Do you think you get what i'm telling you???

how's this for a lucid (reading "clear") response? Fuck off...

you are a complete freakin' caricature...no wonder you and your ass-buddy dwanus are so fond of the dumb ass clown pics... TOOL!

aahhh fuck...here come the damn freshiez shit again

you'll fit in fine out here...the place is decent for rock, not the best but far from the worst...

isn't that remember "left"...hahahaha

i pretty much agree with you except if the route was protected with pins...then i see no difference between a bolt and a pin...both are fixed (fine, you can pull the pin, but the scar is as ugly or more than the hole from when a bolt is removed) plus a scar changes the actual climbing...with enough scarring you have a jug and a nice placement...so no diff ethically... you sure like beating your chest...doesn't it hurt???

You are pretty much talking out of your ass as you don't know the folks from that generation...MaxD, JimP, and AndyD and the folks from that era were pretty competent as far as crackclimbing go...Those routes were bolted to preserve the free climbing nature of them......Numba10 is actually the start to mandala (the all bolted arete above)... This is the problem with somebody who steps in and views a climbing area as a snapshot in time w/o a sense of the history of the area...and its even more ridiculuous when its a visitor... You oughta tell your buddy to not run his piehole off soo much...it makes him and you look like tools.... Darryl Cramer can give a little more light on the history... Regarding insane hard aid...well, if it can go free and its worth it, i don't see a problem with bolts...my opinion...yours are likely different...

so...can your selfrighteous buddy do these climbs with or without the bolts? or is he just climbing on his soapbox to spray you and himself???

perma prowl perma prowl

man, i love that word..."fucktard"...it has such a beauty about it... as in minx is a fucktard!

oh boy...tag team action...

she's on perma-prowl...

no way!! She's da predator...

oooo....pissing match in da works Careful, i think GR's hired heavy hitter is none other than that fatso, DFA...

...its in spray, everything is fair game here, i think?? If not, i'll go delete it...

I'm right there witcha on that!

i think its awesome that BD was willing to make an inline improvement to something already in production...it had to cost them a little bit...additionally, it showed that they were willing to continue to improve an already well functioning design silky smooth!