No matt, you missed what i was saying...I specifically said people's FIRST time in an offwidth and that i was trying to relate what its like to him...i know how to climb offwidths, blah blah blah...but the first time that one ventures into an ow is a real eyeopener that there is absolutely NO comparison between gym ratings and a 100 ft offwidth pitch...
You are right...Face climbing is totally intuitive...its a ladder...particularly in the gym...if you don't know the particular technique for an offwidth of a given size, its extremely frustrating and draining...