Fence_Sitter

i broke my adze as well...got a nice donut to sit on though...still use it to the day...comphy as hell!

no search warrants? dont like the sound of that? that means if you talk to your buddy about B.C.'s finest, yopu will have teh Po-Po busting down your door before you hit send... i'm out...have you ever seen brazil(the movie)? yeah i think i'll pass...

did you say rain? i climbed rock today at squish! supposed to be 10 more days of it...head north! actually no dont...it is raining and the rock is coverend in moss

i will be climbing elbrun then...me and my buddy jordan were plannign on headed up, but wouldn't minda 3rd...PM me if you wanna know details...

shit...

how do you know that!!?!?!

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quote: Plus, as any thinking human would quickly figger out, the voucher system would be unconstitutional, since 90% of private schools are faith-based. I don't want my tax dollars paying someone to preach the holy bible (and creationism) to impressionable kids, thank you very much. i addressed that 3 pages ago... i think you need to re-read the separation of church and state clause...and why dont yuo read it to allison...she needs some help every now adn again..

quote: FS, please stay in school. Don't forget to take some Poli Sci and Econ, and maybe a little English 99 wouldn't hurt either. [Wink] uh yeah...hmmm i'm sure you think your grasp of politics and economics are superior to mine cause they are different... hmm...you call conservatives biggoted? i suggest you take a rhetoric course as you have no grasp of how to conduct an aggument...as boring as mtngoat is, at least the fucker can refute points...all you can do is call names and then whine when the shit you threw gets thrown back at you...fancy you telling me to keep in school when you couldn't even hack it enough to get an undergrad... oh and about my spelling...i'm sorry i dont run my shit through a spell checker...i dont have the time to say FUCK YOU ALLISON in stead of fahq yuo awwison... but you still ge teh point right?

WTF?!?! you cant tell me that as president of teh U.S. he couldn't find a hotter intern?!?!? shit! you should see the interns my uncle has...just dont tell his wife...

quote: social net euphamism for WELFARE! we know what you are saying, no need to cover it up...

quote: We offer the piss-poorest social net of any of our peer nations. yes...but we give it to 10x the number of people who deserve it... if people would stop mooching off of welfare uneeded, there would be plenty of money to cover it... and which countries are you comparing it to? canada? hahaha yeah given that we are exporting their logs raw and stealing their labor i can see why... i am curious what statisticcs you are using...

quote: I will reiterate. You are not penalized. You pay the same as everyone else. The fact that you decided to buy a different education is irrelevant. You made that choice. yes i am being penalized...whether or not you know it...you are paying for your education...think of it as a loan...you go to school for free granted...but you will pay for it later...two-three-or four-fold...so given that perspective, i am also paying $10,000 a year on top of that... how am i not being penalized? i am paying twice...i dont think i whould have to pay extra just because i find the public school system blatently inadequate...

quote: It does not make sense because there is no "educational stipend". yes there is actually... just by being an american, you have the right to an education and by being given a free education, you are receiveing this $. my position is that since that money is going to be spent by you regardless of whether you go private or public, it whould be yourf choice whether or not you spend it on public education or a privatized one... i find you people extremely partisan and have a stout refusal to look at issues as they exist and rather choose to defend every facet of being a DEm or Rep. i think this is a hazardous way of thinking... we should be dtermining our preferences for issues based on our value structures rather than our partisan alignment. how many people here can be easily put into a partisan category? a great majority...i dont think this has to do with their preferences, but rather their party. perhaps we can try to look at each issue individually...

quote: So what about all those taxpayers who do not currently have kids in school? Are they being punished? Why should they pay? because we live in a generally socailist country...true we are capitolistic, but in terms of welfare, education adn other such services which are "essential." my point though is that if we find our services unsatisfactory, we should be able to use our educational stipend on which ever financial institution serves our needs... does that make sense?

chuck- but if i chose to go to a priate school (which i did) i would be punished financially if vouchers were not allowed as i would be paying for public school tax wise and then i would be paying my tuition at my private school... that is being punished...

seriously? i have done everythign in tehm in teh cold....waterfalls, 30 deg. 45 deg, 50, 60 hell ever river walking (ala golden ears in march)...guess it is jsut a preference thing...i think they are teh shit caseu they are so light...

yah...so does DFA... just joking DOC!

i am a winger...i dont do scrums...but i know some 300lb props that would show you around a scrum if ya want hell we can make you our hooker [ 11-18-2002, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Fence Sitter ]

if yuo want a plastic boot that's french-technique frendly...there is the koflach degrees ...but they aren't that warm...bu they do have nice ankle mobility...jsut depends on how warm of a boot you want...

alpinek sucks yet swallows at the same time...

quote: It is not something one puts money in to get it out in your own education. uhmm you are forced to go to school*... and later have to repay that debt...the same is true with a person on welfare that gets off and gets a job and pays taxes... so...uhmm... in all actuality you are paying ofr school... either way you look at it, you pay more for education than you, yourself get out of education... that in my eyes means i am paying for it... perhaps it is you that are confused... *legaly and socially (financialy)

quote: Vouchers encourage people to go outside of the public school sytem. If people are involved in their schools, as in their communities, it makes them better and keeps them better-funded among other things, making them a more valuable asset to all. uhmmm... mabe if the public school system delivered waht teh private schools were offering, this wouldn't be a problem... also the reason public schoolin gis underfunded is not because of vouchers rather our government not putting money into them...if you want more $$$ in the public schools petition your reps to put more in... ifpublic schools are not satisfactory, we have the right to seek out another alternative and we should not be punished for it financially...

and to go along with it....

true enough!