iain

I was just saying shit happens. My reference was catching the spikes in something hanging from your harness, or your pants leg, etc. on steeper stuff. A pretty stupid blunder, but I wouldn't count myself out of doing it. I'd also say that a lot more people climb C. Spur than any other N. route so you'll obviously get more accidents. It's just that every accident seems to be a fatality.

thanks buddy, appreciate it.

Hey carolyn head over to the Cabooze and drink one for me! Went to college at Macalester and saw a killer Bela Fleck show there. Glad to be back in my homeland though. Minnesota was a tough adjustment for me (culturally and topographically).

I'd love to partake but I gots me a meeting that evening. I might be able to stop by for awhile. I'm drinking one for the PDXPC now. ...alright maybe two...

Cooper Spur is the most tame descent but I think a lot of people are irrationally creeped out by it (me included) from its history. And self arrest only helps so much on 50° in that ice/rime. Even the experienced hang their crampons in a dangling prussik occasionally. A bunch of boot-axe pitches on descent is a pain in the ass so you unrope and take your chances. That said, you can probably pin almost every single accident on Cooper Spur to bad decisions on bad snow. Yeah, a fall off parts of sunshine would be ugly, but you'd probably see me over there on descents. Less early sun exposure too.

well i added my 3 contributions to alpine...enjoy!

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what up 'Teryx?

bleh

Quite simply, BD rocks for customer service. They took a negative experience I had with their gear and turned it into a very positive one. Dealing with them direct, I had no problems getting a replacement pair of skins sent, overnight, w/o returning the defective skins immediately. The individual I spoke with (process engineer) was genuinely concerned about quality and had many questions to ask about how the skins failed. I was very impressed and will happily buy again from BD. Thumbs up, and thank you BD service dept.

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So you would recommend dealing with BD direct...perhaps I will try that.

The caveman returns. Thanks for the advice fern, I'm gathering some data as I write. Google's amazing.

yeah pictures of puppies humping live from the garage are all cool, but you are straight up offensive.

quote: Originally posted by b-rock: Yes, curious about your glue issues on your ascensions. After my last time out (used total of about ten days) the glue balled up and left many spots (probably about 30% of the skins total area) completely bare. Hmmm, is this similar to what you experienced? Was this the reason others have returned theirs? That's what was happening to my first pair. It got to the point where the outside edges were almost glueless and the glue that remained was balling up. It was down to about 60% glue coverage when I returned them, and the shop thought I was doing something wrong, like leaving them on the skis for an eternity. Not so. Chunks of glue were stuck to the base. They still stuck for the most part, but I was getting nervous on longer tours w/o a backup pair. The replacement pair is showing signs of the same problem, about 10 uses now. Back to BD they go.

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Bad glue eh? I just had a new pair of ascensions replaced (glue was balling up and sticking to the ski, not the skin). Got a replacement pair, and the same thing's happening again. The local shop here in PDX replaced my pair with a new set (thanks Mtn Shop!) when they sent the old ones out for warranty, but the new pair is just as bad. BD's turnaround (according the Mtn Shop) takes a long time. I now have to go back with another set of skins to have them replaced. Is this a known issue, so that I can tell Mtn Shop that I'm not screwing up the skins myself? -Iain

quote: Originally posted by Uncle Tricky: "how the fuck am I going to get down with no damn rope???" Ropes? you're ignorant. You call in the cavalry direct with the HH-60 to pluck you out of utah, do a few laps around the midwest to keep the taxpayers busy and enjoy a beer back at gitmo while you're kicking some tailban ass in the steel cages at x-ray (or whatever they call it now...enduring freedom? infinite justice? or is it some other cheesy superlative now?) Smoke 'em out! -Iain

What, you didn't go up the 1937 leuthold's c./hogsback variation? How did you come down?

Has anyone used this binding and is there any reason to have it besides its greater release setting than the diamir 2? It's heavier.

You mean the rap bolts attached to rbw's pickets of defeat?

100ft or 1000's of feet, you're still going to die. Learning to scramble with high exposure takes time but is very necessary as you progress to longer routes with big approaches. (Especially, I've discovered, if you are trying to match those estimated times in Putnam's Columbia Mountains books!)

quote: Originally posted by Country Jake: I where shorts while climbing..... If it is cold, i where long johns on under them.... But then you will be mistaken for a Mountaineer or Mazama. Polypro under shorts is their official uniform.