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This one is very easy for me. Some people deserve to be killed...the whiny kid on the airplane, the bitch on the cell phone in her SUV who almost mowed me down on my bike, the dickneck playing earth shaking bass in my parking lot at 2am on a Tuesday night....but seriously: 1. Some innocent people are executed. 2. It's cheaper for taxpayers to jail them for life. Two excellent reasons to retain the ABILITY to seek the death penalty, but to not actively seek it in most circumstances where it is available. Personally, I would rather check out of this earthly existence early courtesy of a lethal injection, rather than be ass raped by Bruno and Tiny for 30 years. I think life in prison is worse punishment than death. I don't oppose the death penalty, but the reality of our ligitious society and the obscene costs associated with it make my choice easy. Retain the right, but only use it in rare cases like McVeigh/Nichols, John Allen Mohammed/Lee Malvo, etc. FWIW, I also am very much in support of prison work farms. The prison system should be self-sufficient on food at a minimum.

Whatever Bob, you old chuffer. You had to re-adopt the suspenders to get the power back when old age came knocking? I bouldered with you in Loa when I lived there once upon a time. That might be the all-time worst boulderfield I've ever climbed in....used condoms from the jack-Mormon breeders, Jenny Blackburn's name prominently displayed in spray-paint, dead sheep remains, and yahoos shooting jackrabbits. You bail from Cap Reef or what?

How's that treble hook in the jaw feel?

Hey, you're not going to rile me. I agree with you, this administration is abhorent. They are calculating and bumbling at the same time, and certainly the worst administration of my lifetime. Still, that doesn't make Michael Moore any less of an asshole. So right back atcha.

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You should have run that poll here Distel. I bet you would have received some sage advice.

You're going all the way to Arizona to pull limestone pockets at Priest's Draw with Bob Van Belle? Get wise Distel, head for the big stone.

You folks might find this site interesting http://www.bowlingfortruth.com it dissects the liberties Moore took with editing and bending the truth. I think Moore has a talent for what he does - stirring up shit with half-truths. This site is pretty telling (it breaks it down scene by scene). The self-serving selective editing (the bank/gun scene is one) is disingenuous and cowardly. I encourage you to check out that site. I actually enjoy Moore's work, but I definitely don't side with him on the issues. I think he is crafty, and pretty intelligent. It's a shame he's such a manipulative bastard with a moonbat agenda.

Get it correct if you're going to nitpick details. "Ham" indicates the part of the body the meat comes from. It is NOT necessarily smoked, although it can be. Ham is meat from the....you guessed it...ham of the pig. That's ass to you and me.

You want a quote....I give you a quote: "Propaganda must always be essentially simple and repetitious. In the long run, only he will achieve basic results in influencing public opinion who is able to reduce problems to the simplest terms and who has the courage to keep forever repeating them in this simplified form despite the objections of the intellectuals." - Joseph Goebbels’ diary, 1/29/42

Whatever Josh. Do you meet those requirements? It is hard to find people with skills money and free time. Good luck Tex, maybe give Mike a shout. He fits the bill and he's been down there before, generally has the winters off, etc.

Josh, I believe your stance amounts to age discrimination. That's not PC!

Who and when? The Huberbuam clocked in at just under 3hr last year...2:54 or something, smashing the El Cap record (previously held by various parties on the Nose) I've seen some video of that climb and it seems hard to beat that...Alex was short fixing and free climbing 5.12 with a huge loop of slack while Thomas speed jugged on more or less free hanging rope.

Never fallen on them, but I have rapped off both.

Did you sandbag him and burn him off? Or give him the hoser-down spray smack-down?

Abraham does ok until he gets to the "Why Iraq" section. His assertion is that: 1. Iraq could have been actively cooperating with terrorist groups and passing WMD to them (he mentions the PLO). 2. We needed a strategic base of operations to protect against the rise of radical islamic regimes. Abraham continues by attempting to equate the war in Iraq with the war on terror. And this is the critical error in his analysis. 1)Regarding his first assertion, we have determined that the Hussein regime was not actively working with Al Qaeda, and they did not pass WMD to the PLO for use against Israel. The PLO scenario is pure fantasy. Condi Rice's assessment that WMD possessed by Iraq would be uselss to them because it would result in obliteration of their country in retaliation, can also be applied to the PLO scenario - If the PLO deployed WMD in Israel, and there was any indication that it came from Baghdad, nukes would be flying from Tel Aviv with coordinates to center-punch Sadaam's palace. 2)We had existing strategic footholds in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan. We did not "need" Iraq. Abraham's second error is equating the opposition to the Iraq war with a failure to understand the danger posed by the rise of radical islam by those in opposition. This is preposterous to me. I fully recognize the danger and support the intelligent use of crushing, decisive force to quell that rise. The outright lying to the public and the misapplication of both forces and resources are the reasons for my opposition. In other words, we could be using our military and financial resources in much more productive ways in the fight against terror than nation-building in Iraq. Abraham attempts to play the "liberal wussy" card, which in many cases can be valid. There are certainly peaceniks who live in a fanatasyland of "smile on your brother, everybody get together try to love one another right now". But broad stroke generalizations of the opposition ignores that there are many conservative leaning, pro military types who opposed the conflict based on practical analysis rather than idealistic pipedreams. I think the MOST relevant thing in the whole article is one line that doesn't get much emphasis: "Such was the case in Lebanon leading to the Syrian occupation and what was attempted in Egypt with the murder of Anwar Sadat, along with the multiple attempts on the lives of Hussein in Jordan, Mubarak of Egypt and Musharraf in Pakistan. Pakistan is a particular prize because of its nuclear weapons." Pakistan is also a hotbed of radical islamic schools and a haven for the radicals themselves. I'd wager good money that bin Laden and his gang of shitheads are in the Pakistan border region. And from what I've read, our troops in Afghanistan patrolling the border region cannot cross the border in pursuit of insurgents. This baffles me. BushCo needs to make it very clear to Musharaf that he WILL cooperate. No "request". More like "we will pursue them if they cross the border, and any attempt to intervene on the part of Pakistani troops will bring down a world of hurt". Everyone agrees that Hussein was an evil dictator. But it also defies logic to say that he needed to go BECAUSE of the dangers of a rise of radical islam. Hussein's regime was secular, and he ruled with an iron fist. The stability of Iraq's regime, and/or it's susceptibility to an radical islamic uprising was never in question. Regardless of your feelings about Sadaam and his ways, he was a stabalizing secular force and in many ways that was an asset to the region with regards to ascention of radicals to governmental control.

Dana Designs too, or did Gleason buy it back? And if he bought Dana back from K2...who owns Mystery Ranch now?

Ran into some stacked shale-like plates in NC once. Every hold was portable. Need pro? Remove a plate and stick a cam in the resulting horizontal. Investigated a cliff near Price Canyon, UT once that looked like Maple Canyon style cobbles. Only this stuff wasn't cemented together...anyone need a bowling ball? Cutler sandstone can be pretty interesting.

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That guy died brah. No, climbing and training will make you strong...bitch. Really? I admit I want to climb cool routes, like the 5.9 Steck Salathe. Werd. I want to send you to a remedial english class. Good thing because the only place you'll be climbing WI6 is in your dreams. Werd. Well, whatever creams your twinkie partner. I dream about long free routes in the Trangos. Maybe you should set the bar a little higher too...V10 ain't all that hard. .11d? That's the warm up route at the Hell Cave. I think you're well on your way to the sprinkler head thing, lessons from Polish Bob would cut down the learning time though If I catch you trying to cop a peak at urinals again, there's gonna be hell to pay George Michael That's rich. I can name off a long list of 5.9s that would shut your whiney ".11d" ass down. Finally, something worthwhile. And all your fellow wankers will wear black Prana beanies for three days of mourning before dogging up your .11d project. "I sent it with only 3 hangs brah!" Alex Lowe said: "The bestest fun is climbing the most". Now let's go bitch

Ok, I'm throwing this out there as a feeler more than any solid plan: I'm thinking of heading down to Yos late Sept or early Oct. I'll have around 7 or 8 climbing days available. If this happens, I'll be flying down from Alaska and could either fly to Seattle/PDX and ride down with you or fly into somewhere in Cali and meet you (prefer to meet you in Oakland or San Fran, possibly Sac or Fresno). Due to the lack of good climbing up here in Squarebanks, I'll be looking to do shorter wall routes in a push. No hauling, no bivy, just get on and climb to the top, under headlamp if necessary. I should be reasonably strong from the plastic, but I don't expect to be in good free climbing shape. I don't anticipate having to free anything harder than .10 on these routes so it shouldn't be any problem either way. I'm talking easy wall routes, most of these go C2, maybe some C3. WFLT, Prow, Wet Denim, S. Face of the Column (probably not that one due to traffic) etc. I'm not averse to fixing a couple of pitches and then going in a push. If you might be interested, and have the requisite experience, send me a PM and we can discuss.

I think Mad Rock has you covered...literally:

Model 1911 .45, and #6 stopper.

Tilly Jane is the fastest.