Fairweather

Posturing?

I want to ask you to reconsider this, Matt. I expect it from the likes of a radical partisan like Crux, but do you really think it is wise to go down this road? If so, how far? Shall we force all documentaries on The History Channel to pass a government "accuracy" review? How far back shall we go? Are the alleged but unsubstantiated affairs of Kennedy, FDR, Taft, and others fair game? How about Nixon - who's gonna separate truth from lie about that administration? Shall we jail Micheal Moore for his 9/11 conspiracy nonsense if it ever makes it to public airwaves? You, of all people, should realize how dangerous this idea is. The only democratic way to counter inaccurate history is with truth - not by banning it.

Did you feel the same way about "The Reagans" documentary that CBS aired a couple years earlier? I recall right-wingers being pissed off about it, but I don't remember hearing anyone call for censorship or imprisonment. As written by whom? You? Those with whom you agree? History isn't often written by the unbiased. A quick review of the thread reveals you did not. You were siding against Scott with one who did and I made an inaccurate connection.

You sound like a real tough guy.

So because Chavez says it, you believe it? Do you really believe that RCTV was calling for Chavez' overthrow "on a daily basis"? I believe they called for his overthrow during the 2002 coup after his thugs killed 18 street protesters in cold blood. But you called for similar government action here for a benign ABC docudrama. If anything, you are even more contemptible than the good comrade. I think you are confused about freedom, Mr Crux.

On at least two occasions you have called for pulling broadcast licenses of networks who aired programs that cast your ideology in a poor light. On one occasion, you called for the imprisonment of ABC network execs. Recent events in Venezuela reveal you and Chavez would get along well.

i wrote a real long reply, then decided it'd be simpler to delete it in favor of something you'd more easily understand: you're a dumbass! questioning the goverment is a right, by your own admission, he died to defend I don't see where Scott is questioning anyone's right to speak out against their government. He is simply stating an opinion held by many - that this mother dishonors her dead soldier-son's beliefs. It's quite a jump for you and Matt to imply that Scott would invalidate anyone's free speech rights. The only people you hear that kind of nonsense from are hard-core lefties like Crux and others here on this site who often call for censorship in radio and television media. that still doesn't make sense - are you saying then that the mother of every soldier has to keep their opinions to themselves when they differ w/ their brave boys? you use this word "dishonor" it seems in place of "disagree." No, I think 'dishonor' fits best. Her son, by all accounts, felt honor in wearing the uniform and serving in Iraq. His mother not only feels the cause in which he participated was dishonorable, but has turned her back on the country he fought for by her own words and deeds - not the least which was lending her fleeting "stature" to a thug like Chavez. Just my opinion. The lady's son is gone, her husband has left her, she was savaged by the right, used by the left and then dumped. I truly feel for her.

At this point many people around the world are threatening the U.S., but none have done the U.S. and everything the Constitution used to stand for more harm than the administration of George W. Bush. The leaders of this administration have collectively done what no other terrorist or enemy of this nation has ever accomplished and by their words and deeds are undeniably treasonous felons to a person. Nixon was a god compared to W... I guess you must think that if you repeat this enough it will be true? But you're always light on specifics. The Patriot Act? Which sections? The real ones please - not the ones you read about on some leftist website. Are you familiar with Woodrow Wilson's Sedition Act of 1918? Do you really think today's supposed "limits" even compare? Illegal War? How about the concocted Spanish-American War and subsequent occupation of The Philippines? War of 1812? Nicaragua? Invasions (repeated) of Mexico? Again, Joe, your history is very shallow. There's a rock down by The Columbia River that's missing its idiot....

i wrote a real long reply, then decided it'd be simpler to delete it in favor of something you'd more easily understand: you're a dumbass! questioning the goverment is a right, by your own admission, he died to defend I don't see where Scott is questioning anyone's right to speak out against their government. He is simply stating an opinion held by many - that this mother dishonors her dead soldier-son's beliefs. It's quite a jump for you and Matt to imply that Scott would invalidate anyone's free speech rights. The only people you hear that kind of nonsense from are hard-core lefties like Crux and others here on this site who often call for censorship in radio and television media.

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I've been reluctantly paying $65 for a NP/USFS combo pass every year now under the apparently misguided assumption that the funds generated were going to maintain trails and access to those trails. So where IS the money going? Down a rathole - jobs program for wannabe land enforcers. Screw this.

And never in the history of our nation has this been so succinctly illustrated as under the administration of George W. Bush at the helm of all three branches of government under Republican control. Your lack of historical perspective is stunning. Pick up a book sometime.

Actually, my little brother and I did that traverse a couple years back Magnificent area. I was curious about current conditions to the upper lake because I had read that there was a lot of windfall from the big storm last winter and I was curious about the snow line on that side. I really want to climb Bretherton after the snow melts down this summer, if for no other reason than to visit Milk Lake - which I've heard is a beautiful place. Maybe we can hook up for a trip? BTW; we still need to go see if Anderson Glacier still has a pulse one of these days.

Were you on Lena or Bretherton? If so, how was the hike to Upper Lena?

Trip: Mount Stone - Route 1 Date: 5/26/2007 Trip Report: Met Off White in Hoodsport this past Saturday at the ungodly hour of 4:30am and drove up the Hamma Hamma to the Putvin Trailhead. A cloudy, cool morning hike up, and up, and up through the forest, but no rain or wind. The snow line greeted us abruptly just beyond the top of the trail "headwall" - half an hour below Lake of the Angels. Melting fast! We were interested in seeing the lake and took a side trip there for a quick snack. The snow was very soft and the lake/basin were 100% covered beneath this last winter's dump. Skiing would be fantastic for anyone willing to haul up their gear. We plodded upward and had the good fortune of remaining between cloud layers most of the day, and the added bonus of having the entire area to ourselves! Classic Olympic fare as the fog and mists blew across the tops of Stone and the surrounding crags, allowing only periodic glimpses. Some mixed scrambling led us to the hidden basin below the main peak. An easy but improbable-looking scramble led to the top and surprisingly warm relaxation. What a great day to climb with a great companion. Note: We hiked out the last mile+ on the old Boulder Creek Road. The road is overgrowing fast but would still be about 95% passable on a mountain bike - minus a couple of major washouts.

Sad, but true. My mommy and daddy couldn't afford to send me to a private prep school like yours did - or send me on big world adventures well into my late 20's. I guess yours are still hoping you'll find yourself?

I can hear Cj now as he stumbles, bleary-eyed, blistered, exhausted and thirsty, down the long root and rock festooned trail, all-the-while cursing the national park trail crew that failed to properly groom his path and muttering his lawyer's phone number under his breath.

Sat: Climbed Mt. Stone with Off White. Great trip! Sun: Yardwork, beer, barbeque, movie, .... Mon: Motorcycle ride with wife, lunch at Tides Tavern. Life was good.

...and now you're talking sideways? Nice try.

Of course, Cj, nobody deserves to enjoy our mountains under any conditions other then those prescribed by you own enviro-puritan vision. Why do liberals insist on seeing only misery and darkness any time ordinary people are simply enjoying themselves? Is your life really that unhappy? The mountains don't belong to you alone.

If they aren't gonna fix the road, I would have no ethical qualms about bending the rules just a bit and staying on the bike all the way to the hot springs.

Like these? C'mon. Corrupting The ESA to impose one's social will is the worst kind of subterfuge. And the primary reason The Act should be repealed and revamped.

Actually, it was Carter's monetary policy and its resultant unchecked inflation that sank his presidency. That, along with his tiresome Wilsonesque moralizing.