Peter_Puget

Very true ---- Cecile Pozzo di Borgo, spokeswoman of the French Foreign Ministry..[dit]. [T]he spokeswoman reiterated her country's call for efforts to seek a "political solution" to the Iraqi crisis, adding that "the organization of free and democratic elections would permit to get together conditions of a real political and economic reconstruction of Iraq". France has opposed the US-led Iraq war and has no troops in Iraq. This suggests that the French diplomats are attempting to link the release of the French hostages to changes in the method and manner in which the Iraqi elections will be held. The mere fact that France is negotiating implictly means there will be a quid for the quo. Paying tribute is all part of the nuanced foreign policy of former great states. But whether the French ante up with secret political concessions or payouts, the result will be the same. More Americans and Iraqis will die as the price of French appeasement. Yet the French will not escape the carnivorous attentions of the terrorists in the end. Promises by blackguards are made to be broken. The trick is to know that and the French have forgotten. Americans at least, have old Arnold Schwarzennegger movies to remind them.His character in the 1985 movie Commando holds a villain by the ankle over a cliff and this bit of dialogue ensues: Arnold to thug: "Hey Sully, remember when I promised to kill you last?" Thug: "Yeah, man! You said that!" Arnold drops the man. Arnold: "I lied."

ok one last problem...spinners!

one more problem...don't botch the third clip!

...the bolts are so far apart at the start that it's hard to stick clip the next one if you only have a 16 footer!

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The weather is the key. After climbing in the rain lately I was happy yesterday was sunny. I dont want to spend another day hanging around in a cave.

Spill the beans

Are Jim and J_B supporters?

Index will suck. The fair traffic might make it impossible to do much climbing.

Moonstone is a bit south of Trinidad. I heard that there was a 30+ pitch traverse of the Tinidad head. Watch the tides!

Rock climbing Sunday - the Fire Escape in the Sky. Great day. Summer is almost over.

To me, that's treason. I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics," says the 56-year-old [Alice] Cooper, who begins a 15-city Canadian tour on Aug. 20 in Thunder Bay, Ont. "When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could. So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick. "If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal. link

***WARNING*** UNSAFE FOR MERV TO OPEN Link Essay Contest: In 500 words or less compare and contrast the Alpinist and the Urban Climber

BRock -Shouldn't yoru post be here The claim was quite specific

As someone once said: Zogby is always to be taken solely as comic relief - but then, its low numbers for the incumbent leave room for the bigger and MORE MEDIA ATTENTION GETTING post convention "bounce!"

Here is the source (I think) counterpunch Heck Alex is certainly no right winger.

Same report is on a couple of other sites as well best line I've read yet: Kerry-Edwards is now a prototype of a Presidential campaign adrift and without any momentum whatsoever at a time they should be in full throttle. Kerry-Edwards has become a campaign for the students at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government to study, the way students at the medical school across the river study donated cadavers.

Forty-six percent (46%) of those surveyed by the Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll now believe John Kerry is either exaggerating the truth (31%) or lying (15%) about his experiences in Vietnam while only thirty-nine percent (39%) now believe Senator Kerry is telling the truth. And that's before the public has had a chance to digest Kerry-Edwards' new admission that John Kerry's first Purple Heart may have been improperly awarded for an unintentionally self-inflicted wound and that Senator Kerry's own journal records that his boat had not been fired upon at the time of the supposed "engagement" for which that Purple Heart was awarded. ( link ) Unfortunately you have to watch the video until the very end.

RumR - My resume is on the back of my VW belay card but so far it appears no one has checked my references

amazing!

Get a copy of the old notebook that used to be in the shack on Bellygood...that thing was a riot!

link for Gregw

Has anyone addressed the very critical after climb pub situation? Index is a very distant second compared to Si or 38. Plus Si has a wider variety of ratings and more room to spread out.

I am hoping he’ll set his rig up somewhere like Pacific Place. It would be nice to check out the sound at the various levels. Plus in amongst the shoppers seems to be a preferred environment for soundscaping.