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Abba is nothing. For the real hard cases I reserve the Bay City Rollers. Here is a trancrition from one of those penance sessions: "S..A..T..U....R....DDDD!!! <screaming> NOOOOOOO! Shoot me!! Shoot me godamm it!! <unintelligable gurgling sound>..." As you can see it's not pretty.

Was that Father 'Bad Touch' O'Sullivan by any chance Doug?

Dear Pope, I get somewhat aroused when driving through Ellensburg. Is this a problem? Signed Sheepish

Lambone, Dude you might want to try a little self deprecating humor and more humble attitude. Works better than F&*% Off followed by 1st class super spray. you do realize that climbing is not really important in the overall scheme of things right? Your angry retorts attract the same sort of attention as a gutted Yak in a Piranha infested river. ;-)

I hear that a school of Prana shorts can strip a human clean to the bone in minutes. Is the fabric really that rough? lambone..a new alias may be in order at this point. The one you have now is just too much of a slam dunk. LOL Chin up me bucko, life should be one long laugh.

quote: Originally posted by scott: i took my girlfriend and dog up to big four- then wandered directly under the avalanche funnel on the north face. ....... "run away, run away!" i yelled to my wife and dog. "it's an avalanche!" "run away!" I think it's very cool that your wife and girlfriend get along well enough to do stuff together with you.

I like the current system. I definitely think that singling out climbers to foot the bill is an extreme prejudice that has largely been fueled by the way the media dramatizes everything. I also know that the costs of rescues that are usually quoted are misleading since the military writes off chopper rescues as training exercises and this money has already been allocated anyway. I would not have a problem paying a small fee upfront as long as hikers, boaters etc.. also payed this fee. Since stupidity is subjective at best I don't think this should be used as a parameter for personal payment. My 1/50th of a dollar.

I think you're being stalked Charlie.

Sorry to dissapoint you guys but I believe the rock in question was removed because it was loose. No sport climbers were hurt in the filming of this...<snicker>

Thanks Mike, I was inspired by the fresh batch of provacative pics sent to me by Donna Two Step ;-) She is just sooooo hot! LOL

jkassidy, Why the animosity bud? I know RG2001 and he loves climbing and is quite good at all the various disciplines of climbing. I think the advice he gave is totally solid. What do I know though, I'm just a poser ;-)

trouser volcano village girl climb high Mt. Lou run villagers run!

Donna, I hope you don't feel pressured out of this site. I love all the different perspectives that all of the different personalities bring to this site. When I see a post by you I definitely read it. I may not agree with all of it but so what. Everybody's got an opinion/asshole, myself included. All that plus Pope says you're really hot. Got any pics? :-) Just kiddin'. Keep shakin' the basket sweetheart.

I'm not sure AlpineK's alone on the not understanding part.

savaiusini You might want to try not using all caps in a post. Automatically puts people on guard since this is usually interpreted as anger, cockiness or naivete all of which can be like blood in the water in this sharkpit...lol. Good luck on the climb if you go. I hear the conditions on the Carbon are not good so be careful.

Paul have you read any of the stuff written on muscle recovery? Entire books have been written on this topic. Check this link out: http://www.optimalmusclerecovery.com/

You, Tom Jones and actresses? Interesting offspring I'm sure. Like something from an X-Files episode. Tom Jones based offspring: 'What's new pussycat wooo oo wooo oo woo' Actress mom: 'Shut up Tom Jr and comb your palms' LOL

Dru, Mass extinction with you as the sole survivor? Better obtain a huge supply of fresh palm razors. You'll need 'em!

I enjoy solitude in the wilderness. If I want that I choose routes that are not that crowded. I can choose to speculate why areas are becoming more crowded but that will not change the situation so I try not to go there. I enjoy climbing very much so I really strive to look for the positives. I have very little control in what happens in this world and I think the best way we can teach people new to climbing is by example not criticism. This is a big state and if a climb I want to do is crowded then I have two choices: get pissed off and fume about all of the posers keeping me from doing 'my' route or do something else. I've done both by the way ;-)

And that brings us to the end of another new episode of MTV's "The Real World - Craggin'"

AlpineK I've never done DDD but it sounds like it definitely has lost it's character by the retro-bolting. I would say if the original routesetter did not retro bolt it or was not consulted for the retro and it can be restored without scarring it too bad, then a little chop chop may be in order. I would hate to see no ethics enforced. Everybody would suffer if there was no respect. It's just a f&*)ing complex issue.

Chirp chirp chirp? You playin' the The Bad Touch Symphony in the barnyard again Chuck? You Ellensburg boys never cease to amaze me with your range of hobbies...LOL disclaimer: this is just humor and not meant to slam Ellensburg. Remember just a joke. :-)

AlpineK Well let's be honest here. Those who "hate" bolts are in the minority. So should the vocal, proactive minority dictate policy for the rest? We could spend a couple of weeks chopping bolts at Vantage in preperation for our upcoming invasion of China...LOL. I love trad climbing. I like the mental challenge and the sense of adventure. It would piss me off if a crack were bolted. I love sport climbing. I like the physical challenge and athletic nature of it. I would be irritated if a route had a bolt every three feet but I would not chop it, I would just climb something else. Or bolt my own desperate runout. If the question is asthetics then I think a bunch of gray glue used to fill in a chopped bolt is at least as ugly as a bolt. Whether we like it or not this is no longer an elitist sport and there are so many mixed ethics now that it will never be like it was when Royal was pulling hard.

Pope quit choking yourself and provide us with indefatigable (damn I got to use that in a sentence) proof that Donna Two Step exists. She/he/it has no info in her profile which leads me to believe that she is just a fig newton of your imagination.

And you're point Z?