Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted December 6, 2002 Posted December 6, 2002 It seems there's a certain mindset among a lot of trad climbers, too, that they are more out enjoying nature, using their skills to get up off the deck more than 50', and immersing themselves in the more technical side of climbing, as opposed to most sport climbers, who are more into chasing grades and getting the send. The low-pressure trad mindset doesn't exactly contribute, in most people, to a big need to push the grades up, and, as you point out, the bulk of the classics you might climb are in the 10s, so there is no practical reason to be working harder and harder routes. All the same, if more people took the sport mindset to the trad environment, you can bet that you'd see more trad climbers hitting higher grades. Ropegun200(2) comes to mind as someone who has applied that, as well as folks like Tommy Caldwell, Tomas and Alex Huber, and Stefan Glowacz. Quote
Kevin_Ristau Posted December 6, 2002 Posted December 6, 2002 5.10 is my limit, both trad leading on the rock and in the gym. I do not have the strength or the technique to climb harder grades. If I climbed more consistently and trained specifically for climbing, I am positive that I could improve my ability in the gym. I think it would be a slower amd more difficult process to try and improve my grades on the rock. I was able to improve my trad leading by doing a lot of gear placing, to the point where I am confident in my ability to protect a route. I them rationalized to myself that I can climb 5.10, and I can protect it, so therefore I can lead it. I basically forced myself up routes this way, and my confidence has followed. I think that DFA had it right when he talked about being pumped as a mental problem more than a physical one. Climb with better climbers, or if your partners are at the same level, get competitive and push each other. Develop confidence in your ability to protect routes, and don't worry about using the gear if you are trying to advance, the clean ascents will come with time. Quote
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