JBo6 Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I am looking at buying a package of a Mad Rock rope and 10 quickdraws, and have the choice of a 10.2 Non-dry and a 9.8 dry rope. I am a newbie, thus the post here, so I am not super concerned with the rope wearing out super quick, because once it does I will then know what I actually want/need. Basically, is there any difference that would matter? Here is the rope info: http://www.madrockclimbing.com/madrockropes.aspx And here is the package: http://www.climbaxe.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=70 Thanks for the help. Quote
marc_leclerc Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 go with the 9.8 dry if you like the idea of a lighter and easier to manage (I find) rope that you can get wet without worrying about decreased strength... if you are just planning on simple cragging in the sun the 10.2 ropte may last longer.. Quote
woodchips Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I'd worry more about the draws. You'll have those alot longer. They look heavy, which if you end up getting into alpine stuff will be an issue. You might look into something like this: draws  Lighter, and they are wire gate, which has other advantages. Quote
catbirdseat Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 go with the 9.8 dry if you like the idea of a lighter and easier to manage (I find) rope that you can get wet without worrying about decreased strength... if you are just planning on simple cragging in the sun the 10.2 ropte may last longer.. What are you talking about? What gave you the idea that a non-dry rope would lose strength when wet? It's all about weight. Wet ropes are HEAVY! Quote
woodchips Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 go with the 9.8 dry if you like the idea of a lighter and easier to manage (I find) rope that you can get wet without worrying about decreased strength... if you are just planning on simple cragging in the sun the 10.2 ropte may last longer.. What are you talking about? What gave you the idea that a non-dry rope would lose strength when wet? It's all about weight. Wet ropes are HEAVY! Â CBS, I always thought this was true as well. Actually, I thought there were three reasons to get a dry (or double dry) rope (lighter when wet, more durable and stronger.) Am I just buying the hype? Quote
Bug Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 CBS, there was a post somewhere here that showed wet ropes to be weaker by a little bit. But for me, it is the weight and freezing factors that top the list. I have a 9.7 60m bi-color superdry that I use for alpine and cragging. I love it. Quote
hemp22 Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 for the choice that the OP is looking at, I'd go with the 9.8 dry rope. If the dry rope & non-dry rope are the same price, I'd go with the dry rope any time - even if planning on only using it in dry conditions. In addition to what's mentioned above, some dry treatments seem to reduce friction (on rock or on biners) a little bit too, which is nice. Sure, the 9.8 may wear out a little faster than the 10.2, but by the time it does, you'll be able to find another good rope deal... Quote
Blake Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 If you are just go rock cragging, your rope wont be getting wet anyway so why pay more fore a useless feature? Quote
counterfeitfake Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 They cost the same amount. And your rope can TOTALLY get wet cragging... Â 9.8 dry is a slam dunk, the difference in durability between 10.2 and 9.8 is probably not much. That's a good starter package! Quote
Jud Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 (edited) Great thread...and great tip. I've just bought one of these 9.8 dry ropes for myself...for occasional cragging, but for simple alpine missions this summer. Â Great deal...and no shipping charge either! Â Â Edited April 22, 2008 by Jud Quote
bar-tacked Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Sweat deal Does anybody know if they have middle marker on them? Quote
JBo6 Posted April 26, 2008 Author Posted April 26, 2008 Yes they do, a black mark about 1-2 inches long. Quote
jibby Posted May 16, 2008 Posted May 16, 2008 for a first rope the 10.2 is fine because you will probally be doing more top roping than hard red point ascents. Then when you start trying harder routes, thats when the ounces srart adding up and then you buy the Mammut 8.9 single. Quote
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