Peter_Puget Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 (or some people will buy anything) From some liberal site I copied from last night before I was frazzled by JJ's pitching: He didn't realize Rezko was under investigation when he entered into the shady house deal, even though it was well established in the local Chicago papers. He didn't know about the 11 low-income housing units going under in his small state senate district that were owned by Rezko even as he asked for funds for these buildings. He didn't know the difference between a yea vote and a nay vote, so he "pressed the wrong button" six times...at least two of those times the votes were hotly contested and the vote was very close. He didn't know the Kyl-Lieberman vote was taking place, but somehow every other candidate knew about it. He didn't realize that his spiritual mentor and pastor of 20 years was saying very controversial things in church (er..but now maybe he says he did know...). He didn't know his top economic adviser, Austin Goolsbee, met with the Canadian government and suggested that his position on NAFTA was just political posturing. He was for the decriminalization of pot before he was against it because he, as a Harvard educated lawyer, did not know what decriminalization meant. He never saw a survey that he says misrepresents his views, despite the fact that his handwriting is on the survey. Quote
Dechristo Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I didn't know what a lot of cuss words meant until I was in the sixth grade. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 Seems like your really reaching with the smear campaign there Peter. What politician doesn't have a list like that? Can you name one? Quote
olyclimber Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 Well the Straight Talk Express has been derailed * McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain if he were a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.” * McCain’s campaign unveiled a Social Security policy that the senator would implement if elected, which did not include a Bush-like privatization scheme. In March 2008, McCain denounced his own campaign’s policy. * In February 2008, McCain abandoned his opposition to waterboarding. * In November 2007, McCain reversed his previous position on a long-term presence for U.S. troops in Iraq, arguing that the “nature of the society in Iraq” and the “religious aspects” of the country make it inevitable that the United States “eventually withdraws.” Two months later, McCain reversed back, saying he’s prepared to leave U.S. troops in Iraq for 100 years. * McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it. * McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it. * On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation. * In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure. * McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.” * McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.” * McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite. * McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed. * McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. * McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February. * On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending. * In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support. * McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation. * McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it. * McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it. * McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol. * McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag. * McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 And of course I would give equal time for Hillary, but there isn't enough room on cc.com. Just wait for the next opinion poll for a shift. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted April 2, 2008 Author Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) Ya pointing out his actual record is a smear.....as I said the power to believe.....there is nothign wrong with changing positions however....the Obama list is not simply a list of position changes......as I said the power to believe..... Edited April 2, 2008 by Peter_Puget Quote
olyclimber Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I think its a smear when you focus on the negative. Don't you have anything positive to say? The season is still young! We're at .500! And all you can do is "point out inconsistencies"...that has already been done! And your man has as many or more! So who wins the battle of the most inconsistencies? You're such a negative nelly. Quote
lI1|1! Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I didn't know Peter could post about something other than baseball. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 You've got to accentuate the positive Eliminate the negative Latch on to the affirmative Don't mess with Mister In-Between You've got to spread joy up to the maximum Bring gloom down to the minimum Have faith or pandemonium Liable to walk upon the scene (To illustrate his last remark Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark What did they do Just when everything looked so dark) Man, they said we better Accentuate the positive Eliminate the negative Latch on to the affirmative Don't mess with Mister In-Between No, do not mess with Mister In-Between Do you hear me, hmm? Quote
minx Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 leave PP alone. he's having a hard time dealing w/last night's loss. he's just acting out. Quote
Dechristo Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 You've got to accentuate the positive Eliminate the negative Latch on to the affirmative Don't mess with Mister In-Between You've got to spread joy up to the maximum Bring gloom down to the minimum Have faith or pandemonium Liable to walk upon the scene (To illustrate his last remark Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark What did they do Just when everything looked so dark) Man, they said we better Accentuate the positive Eliminate the negative Latch on to the affirmative Don't mess with Mister In-Between No, do not mess with Mister In-Between Do you hear me, hmm? as sung by Bing Crosby in Cookie-Monster-voice. Quote
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