TeleRoss Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Anyone else think that Yodemeister and Crossing the Delaware are both significantly more difficult than Red M&M's? I think so, but I pretty much suck anyways so my opinion probably doesn't count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensHolsten Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 To me, Red M&M's feels harder than CTD. Not sure about Yodemeister, never been on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suckbm Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 On red mm it can differ depending if from the rest near the top do you go straight up where the climbing is still sustained and with less gear or do you cut over to george and martha. going straight up is the second crux of the route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleRoss Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Yeah that top section on Red M&M's is tough. I think the crux mid route is a bit more technical, but that bit at the top is more physical. Either way, I still think that Yodemeister and CTD are tougher. Yodemeister has very few rests at all, where Red M&M's has great rests. CTD is just funky thin, kinda like Red M&M's but with only one crack. Maybe Red M&M's feels a bit easier because it is not very sustained. But with two distinct cruxes, wile Yodemeister is sustained from bottom to top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmatt Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I was flipping through my guidebook last night, and it said that Yodemeister is only a 10a. I assume this is a misprint when you are comparing it to CTD and RMMs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I have lead Yodmeister and it is easy for a 10a even at Vantage. Easier than some 5.8s at Index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleRoss Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 The one I'm thinking of has 3 or 4 bolts through a bulge down low, and then a thin face crack on the front of the column that takes tiny brassies, and a #1 in a flaring pod and then another bolt near the top after the crack disappears. apparently 11b, but felt stiffer than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I have lead Yodmeister and it is easy for a 10a even at Vantage. Easier than some 5.8s at Index. Yodmeister it the one to the right of Go Cat Go. I was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmatt Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Heads up for anyone that wants to try CTD: The hanger on the top of CTD has been hammered flat (not sure how recently this happened). But with the rest of the rock up there being typical vantage choss, its pretty hard to set a TR on now. If you want it, you might just have to bust out the RPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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