We are winning the war! ?

[enelson]

so maybe you will reject this as left wing propaganda coming from those crazy kids at the NYTimes, but how do you think this adds up? maybe the policy of constant military pressure won't really work against terrorists, no one has tried it yet, so how do we know we are winning the war?

 

killing only pisses them off!!!

 

if bush is wrong, what should our policy be?

 

(good office debate )

[chucK]

I don't think constant military pressure directed speicifically at terrorists is a bad idea. It might actually work pretty well.

 

Unfortunately what our govt. applied was/is indiscrimate military pressure. The initial invasion of Iraq was not targeted at terrorists. Rounding up people and putting them in Abu Gahraib knowing that 70-90% of them are innocent (and then mistreating them) is indisriminate. A good portion of those wrongly imprisoned and mistreated are going to look much more closely at devoting the rest of their life getting revenge. As are all the people who've had their family members killed by collateral damage.

 

Also, invading a country with plans to democratize it and make its citizens free and prosperous seems like a pretty postive way to promote stability (and inhibit terrorism). However, this is a difficult job that requires expertise and hard work. Unfortunately the Bush administration staffed their mission with friends of the party instead of bonafide experts (a la FEMA debacle) and totally screwed up the whole thing, in Iraq AND Afghanistan.

 

Sorry, I don't have any solutions, except for maybe firing our incompetent leaders (accountability is a Republican buzzword right?) and see if we can get some leadership that's amenable to hiring qualified and experienced experts regardless of whether they were significant donors to the GOP.

[enelson]

just a funny addition to this, this is the last paragraph from that "declassified report" as linked through the article i posted. sound like cc.com to anyone else?

 

"We judge that groups of all stripes will increasingly use the Internet to

communicate, propagandize, recruit, train, and obtain logistical and financial

support."

 

let me see, "groups of all stripes"- canadians and americans and general dumbasses, check

 

"communicate"- i think that is what we are doing, though it may not be effective...

 

"propagandize"- pretty good cheastbeating for sure

 

"recruit"- who wouldn't want to be a part of this? climbing is like crack.

 

"train"- well, uh, maybe mental prep for the time you will spend in your harness on OS, (heheh)

 

"obtain logistical and financial support"- TR's for sure, and then a pay pal donation? i think i would rather bring booze to smith in a few weeks!

 

point is, i think we have a nice little nondescript cell in the making! keep it up!

[Dechristo]

point is, i think we have a nice little nondescript cell in the making...

 

They are preparing one for you, now.

[enelson]

nice, i guess the cia can't tell a joke on message boards with out the inclusion of an " "