Strider13 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hi, Does anyone have any info on the current route conditions for Cooper Spur? Is it still doable? Especially, how is the upper part? Got some word about 2 weeks ago that this route seems to be over-crouded these days (again, that was 2 weeks ago). Can you confirm? Regards, S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 i've never seen that route crowded, certainly nothign like the south side - if the road's open to cloud cap it's always possible though. i seriously doubt the upper mtn would be out of shape already, but it's been a month since i last climbed it. go do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatinoutliquor Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 You should have great conditions on the route if you go sometime in the next month or so. I wouldn't expect crowds either. Jeez, maybe even bring some skis to stash somewhere (or carry to the top and huck the elliot) for the trip down (maybe go down sunshine?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider13 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Actually I plan soloing it in a few days, if the weather won't be too nasty. I just reached a final stage of SAD (severe alpine deficiency) Thanks for your comments guys! ---------------------------------- Cogito ergo sum -S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyD Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hey Strider13, We did Cooper Spur a few days ago Friday (5/27). Here’s the story - we started from the lower parking lot (by the ski area). The snow line is about at the tree line. So hopefully it will not be long until the gates are opened and you can drive up to Cloud Cap. On the hike in to the Tilly Jane cabins we could see the full moon through the woods, it was pretty cool. Lower down much of the snow can be avoided by keeping to the edge of the Elliot lateral moraine. Where you had to get on snow, starting at the ridge crest near tie-in-rock, it was all breakable crust. We broke through a few inches. The lower Cooper face is filled with fresh new slides. Once you get past the fan of avalanche debris, the crust was gone (or should I say swept away). We stayed on the left edge of the slides. The conditions on the top of the face are fine. There are some rocky sections sticking out (that we used to shield any potential stuff falling from above). We were on snow the whole way, it was all good. Friday was really hot and full on sun . So inspired by fear of avalanche we really booked up the last 2.5K feet. We topped out around 7:30AM. (It took us 7hr 40min to summit.) By the time we got near the top things were getting soft, but still reasonable. Our steps were not collapsing and my crampons were just starting to ball up about 100 feet below the summit. We did not see anyone on the Spur and did not see any signs of people, save a few faint boot prints lower down. We shuttled a car around to Timberline so we could descend the south side. I definitely would not have wanted to descend the Spur on Friday morning (with avy risk increasing by the minute) . I guess if we started descending about 6AM or so, it would have been OK. But anything later in the day than that, fagetaboutit. When we topped out we had the summit to ourselves (but only for a precious 10 min.). I can send you some pics, if you’re interested. Have Phun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider13 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hey MarkyD, Thanks for the info, I appreciate that! A few questions: - How is the Tilly Jane trail? Is it all snow? - Is the Tilly Jane trail entrance on the ski resort marked? - How much time did it take you to get from the tie-in rock to the summit? - Is there a snow overhang at the summit entrance? I would appreciate any pics you could send me. You might either post them here (by the amount of Views this thread received in less than 24hrs I would assume the subject is interesting to others); or you can send those pics me via e-mail (please see my profile). Sincerely, S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyD Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hey Strider, This is verging on over-beta. It’s all good. Go do it. But you ask, so I will tell. - How is the Tilly Jane trail? Is it all snow? There’s no snow until above the cabins. The snow line is just below tree line, which is maybe 500 feet(?) in elevation above the cabins. I always take a left at the cabins then a right at that big canyon (Palallie?) and use it as a handrail up to treeline. - Is the Tilly Jane trail entrance on the ski resort marked? Yes. On Cloud Cap road there is a short section where: there is a pullout on the right (paved, I think), across from the pullout is a gate on the left to go up to the Ski area (gate now closed). On the far edge of the first pullout go through an open gate to a dirt pullout on the right. The trail is on left side of road across from the dirt pull out. There are some signs at the start of the trail a bit into the woods. If you miss this and continue on, you’ll be driving up to Cloud Cap (or the gate, which ever comes first). This is description may be a bit off - I’ve been there a bunch of times and don’t pay attention to the landmarks. - How much time did it take you to get from the tie-in rock to the summit? About 3 hours – again, inspired by fear. - Is there a snow overhang at the summit entrance? There’s no cornice at the lip of the Spur where you top out about 200 feet south of the summit. North of the summit, more directly over the N Face, there’s definitely a cornice in places. Of course, this can change. There are options topping out of the Spur. You could go left to join the top of W’yest. Or you could go more right, pull the lip just at the summit and scream to all the sleeping tourists . I don’t have a web server to store the pics my partner took, so I’ll mail them to you. Feel free to post the ones where I’m looking good (if any) . Have Phun, MarkyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider13 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thanks a ton! -Strider13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider13 Posted June 6, 2005 Author Share Posted June 6, 2005 Well, I tried to do it this Sat/Sun night but had to turn back due to extreme wind. Despite the forecast all Saturday was blue sky, no clouds. Saturday night was all stars. I camped at tie-in rock and the route looked certainly in shape. But then at around 8pm wind started and by the time I was planning to leave (1am) it became so strong that was almost overthrowing me . I made an attempt but then decided not to test my luck. The wind was blowing towards Eliot. Someone w. better experience on this route might make a different decision, but that's how I decided. The route is definitely going to stay in shape next week or so. -Strider13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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