Hammer/adze for BD Vipers

[J_Fisher]

Does anyone know if the modular hammer/adze doohickeys are compatible with other BD tools (e.g. Cobras) or is it viper specific?

[CascadeClimber]

90% sure they are Viper-specific.

[cj001f]

90% sure they are Viper-specific.

I thought with the death of the Black Prophet all BD head's were the same? On the website they look the same...

[iceclimber]

They're interchangeable.

[Lambone]

90% sure they are the same as the Cobras...call up Featherd Friends, they will know.

[J_Fisher]

OK . . . I went straight to the source and called BD . . . they said they're interchangeable.

 

BTW, mountain gear is selling sets of vipers for a pretty good price right now. But you've got to get 1 axe/1 hammer, thus my question. Guess I'll be trying the leashless thing this next winter.

[Lambone]

J, the Vipers work great leashles with the Fang, Especialy for relatively moderate stuff. I can see how having the second pinky grip at the top of the handle could be usefulll, but those are easy enough to rig.

 

Have fun!

[J_Fisher]

Thanks for the feedback Matt. Curious what you mean by "moderate" and why. Moderate means WI3 to some and sub WI7 or sub M9 to others. I expect to use the vipers for WI5/5+ and my occasional dabbling in easier M-climbs.

[Lambone]

haha yeah, moderate to me means water ice 4-easy 5 maybe some easy mixed. On a stout 5 I'll take some leashes anyday...

 

I think for harder (read steep cave) mixed climbing there are better tools, and if you are climbing hard water ice you'd probly want a real leashless grip, like the Ergo.

 

You'll like the Vipers....I do, the only thing I don't like is that they have a tendency to flex when you put alot of weight on one....which is a little unerving. Once you put the Fang on you probly won't take it off, you need this tiny Allen for it. I leave it on, even with leashes.