highclimb Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 i need a new rope(s). i have thought about buying a half(double..your prefrence)rope system just because it reduces rope drag, put less impact force on your gear and is less likely to have a system failure. i was thinking of the bluewater Exellence. any suggestiong? disagree? input? all is welcome thanks Aidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_e Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 I have both the excellence (for rock) and ice floss (for ice). I like both of them, but the do seem to tangle more than other ropes that I own. All of my other ropes are 10mm singles (Mammut Galaxy). That's my $.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted February 6, 2001 Share Posted February 6, 2001 i personally vote for 70m ropes less pitches and you can top rope all that nasty climbing at index though i also put my vote in for bd's twin ropes 9mx60 very durable ropes they last almost a year look at that i voted twice does it still count can anyone determine my intent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highclimb Posted February 7, 2001 Author Share Posted February 7, 2001 if i buy double ropes i wont buy the BD ones. way to heavy, like 58 grams a meters. ill buy bluewater. 48 grams a meter. Aidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted February 7, 2001 Share Posted February 7, 2001 I have a set of BW Excellence ropes too, for ice and alpine. I'd agree with DanE they do seem to be rather prone to tangling. I bought BW because their dry proofing system is supposed to be pretty good. My Mammut ropes didn't seem to stay dry for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 I have a seet of doubles: Mammut 50 Meter 8.6 mm dry ropes I love them. In the mountains, I often just carry one in and double it up, having the leader tie in to both ends and having the second tie into an eight-on-a-bight at the halfway mark. So light! My friend just bought a set of PMI 8.1 mm doubles (which are, to my knowledge, the smallest millimeter rope available which passes the double-rope test as opposed to being a twin-rope set). They're dry and super-light. I don't know if my mammuts will lose their dryness as some other folks indicated happened to them. Once you start climbing on doubles, you'll probably be hooked. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highclimb Posted February 9, 2001 Author Share Posted February 9, 2001 Thanks goatboy. how did you come up with that name anyway? i starting to seriously concider the BW Excellences but if anyone out there knows of flaws in them please tell. Aidan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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