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Trip: Rainier - Winthrop (Emmons)
Date: 8/18/2012
Trip Report:
Short version:
Red Bull. Up, up, up. Red Bull. WTF? Up, up, up. Yahoo! Down, down, down. Tracks! Down, coffee, down, glissade, down. Beer.
Long version:
http://www.cascadeclimber.com/blog/?p=96
Gear Notes:
The route is spicy. Take more gear than you typically would for the Emmons.
Approach Notes:
Inter is still in good shape. Glissaded the whole thing in two shots.
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The route, as posted on the blog, goes right from Schurman and ascends the Winthrop entirely. The section from about 9700 (it descends some from Schurman) to 11,000 has some challenging crevasse crossings, exposed traverses, exposed blue ice, and is changing rapidly. Yesterday's (Aug 17) post on the blog about the crevasse 'plug' being passable is inaccurate. A walkable reroute is in place as of late yesterday morning.
In short, this route is more serious than usual, at least though that section. Expect to do some routefinding and more exposure than when it goes up the Corridor.
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It fails the 'short approach' metric, but the West Ridge of Stuart offers a lot of Class 3 and 4 scrambling, leading to the West Ridge Notch, after which you get about 4 pitches of easy 5th to the summit. It's a long climb, especially if you start pitching it out before the notch.
The North Face of Vesper is fun.
West Ridge of Thompson.
The Improbable Traverse on Guye (not sure of the rating).
The scramble route up Cathedral Rock is fun. Probably not 5th though.
Ingalls is a long walk in for only two pitches. Pretty area, though.
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While I know Loren is pretty much in favor of razing everything up there, including the remote telemetry...
That's not an accurate statement, actually.
For the record (all my opinion only):
- I prefer option 2. I think the "You have to cook in a different building" point in it is there to discourage people from it. Lame.
- The weather telemetry is okay by me. I think the webcam is a wasteful boondoggle and distraction from the mission of the climbing rangers.
- The semi-permanent and, I think, illegal giant guide service tents should not be allowed, as they appear to be erected in the wilderness zone.
- The eyesore guide hut should be removed. Clients can camp in tents, like the vast majority of non-guided climbers.
- I have no issue with the Butler Shelter remaining. The NPS says it's not architecturally aligned with other buildings there, but I don't agree.
- I strongly disagree with introducing foreign materials to the Camp Muir site, particularly crushed rock. Erosion is a natural process and trying to stop it creates an unnatural situation in several ways.
In general, the document introduces quite a few issues, then seems to pick and choose from those issues in a way that leads to preferring Option 3.
Bottom line though, *please participate*, regardless of your position.
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I've been wondering how difficult it would be to traverse into the route from the main Guye Peak trail, just after where it splits off from the Snoqualmie Mt. trail. That would make the deproach easier as well, in terms of returning to the vehicle.
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Now is your opportunity to participate in the Camp Muir redevelopment plan. Three meetings are scheduled:
Aug 1, Seattle REI
Aug 8, Tacoma Mountaineers Program Center
Aug 9, MORA/Rainier NPS HQ in Tahoma Woods
All three are 6-8PM.
Project home page:
http://parkplanning.nps.gov/projectHome.cfm?projectID=25222
Project details (a lot of details):
http://parkplanning.nps.gov/document.cfm?parkID=323&projectID=25222&documentID=48847
This is our opportunity to participate in the direction of our resource, and I believe that public participation is far more important than the actual option (there are four) chosen.
(cross-posting to Climber's Board as well)
Thanks-
L
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Now is your opportunity to participate in the Camp Muir redevelopment plan. Three meetings are scheduled:
Aug 1, Seattle REI
Aug 8, Tacoma Mountaineers Program Center
Aug 9, MORA/Rainier NPS HQ in Tahoma Woods
All three are 6-8PM.
Project home page:
http://parkplanning.nps.gov/projectHome.cfm?projectID=25222
Project details (a lot of details):
http://parkplanning.nps.gov/document.cfm?parkID=323&projectID=25222&documentID=48847
This is our opportunity to participate in the direction of our resource, and I believe that public participation is far more important than the actual option (there are four) chosen.
(cross-posting to Rainier route reports as well)
Thanks-
L
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This is the first full TR I've written in about seven years. Man, time can really fly.
We believe this is the first recorded ascent of any route on the south face of Little Tahoma.
http://www.cascadeclimber.com/blog/2012/06/25/little-tahoma-south-face-may-13-14-2012/
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I bought a $500k 20 year term policy a few years back from New York Life. They asked a lot of questions about climbing, which I answered truthfully. They said the only way I'd ever get a non-climber rate from them is if I signed that I'd gotten rid of all my gear. The policy is expensive (about $90/month) compared to the non-climber version. I've been considering adding another policy that doesn't cover climbing-related incidents. Reading through this thread though, it's probably wiser to put the money into long term disability.
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I went up the Nisqually Icefall to 13,100 on a day trip two weekends ago. I skied from 13,100 down the Ingraham Direct and back to Muir via Cath Gap.
The area immediately above the top of Gib Rock is as broken as I've ever seen it this time of year. It's passable, but not a gimme like it usually is.
The Ledges appeared to be in decent shape and the big boulder that was sitting at the top of Gib Chute has either fallen or is buried in snow.
The Ingraham appears to be more broken up than usual as well, particularly the area just above Ingraham Flats and just below the top of Gib Rock. I couldn't ski through Cadavar Gap as it's melted out to rock and Cath Gap isn't far behind.
The upper mountain, above 12,800 looked to be in fine shape.
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FF-Its not like write off or deception are really classic crags so im not sure how this is really that big of a deal.
They might not be classic, but they are heavily used because they are moderate with a short, easy approach.
Agree, respecting the closure is important, and let's not disregard the popularity of this area.
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The image I saw seemed to show the nest more directly above Write Off. Is it just D Wall that's closed, or does the closure affect that entire area (Nevermind to Hull)?
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Dean's letting his adrenaline addiction get the better of him. Same thing happened to Dan Osman.
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With the exception of some moderate wind, the weather was great last weekend. I left the parking lot at 8:15 AM on Saturday and turned around at 13,100 (for a variety of little reasons).
I went up the Nisqually Icefall and skied down the Ingraham Direct.
There is unconsolidated snow on the upper mountain and I didn't see any tracks anywhere above Cathedral Gap.
Route finding above the top of Gib Rock is more challenging that usual for this time of year.
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All the folks who fawn over the webcam and other structure and planned structure at Camp Muir, and are against this sort of thing should, I think, take a careful look at the slippery slope you're on.
You might think you can get just more of the sort of structure that appeals to you, but it doesn't usually work that way. More leads to more leads to more.
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The Jefferson Park Glacier route is stellar: Standard glacier approach, one steep pitch to the ridge, a rock or mixed traverse (multiple pitches) to the col, then a scramble to the top.
Great route that requires all-around moderate mountaineering skills.
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Looking for a solid, experienced partner for Rainier Fri-Sat. Gibraltar Ledges. Need to be comfortable simul-soloing up to and across the ledges. I ski and would be amenable to a summit ski, probably down the Ingraham Direct and through Cadavar Gap.
I've been across the ledges 10+ times and have 25 Rainier summits.
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Looks like just a little puff of winter breeze to keep the bugs down, John
Not five minutes after I commented about the low odds for the missing snowshoer, the news hit that he'd been found unscathed. So I've been holding my tongue (or fingers) this time. And yes, the odds are extremely slim at this point.
It's been a shitty month for Rainier staff and visitors; it would behoove us all to appreciate the staff for their work this month as possible.
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Email me, Iron. No way I can keep up on the approaches (but I'll hold my own), but I really enjoy alpine moderates.
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I'd climb this route. Can't do this Friday, but can sneak out for a mid-week day here and there. In Seattle.
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I don't know, but it was towed. It was the car in the upper lot, which was visible on one of the webcams. Unless things have changed, this is not the overnight lot. In the past, overnight winter users have been asked to park in the lower area of what used to be the JVC lot. There may well still be (or have been) a car there, but it's not visible on any of the cameras.
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They towed the car out of the lot tonight.
Seems like if they were ambulatory, they'd have stuck their heads up today- clear skies, relatively low wind, three aircraft flying low and making noise, on top of 40ish SAR folks.
It's been a shitty month at MORA.
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It's tempting and easy to second-guess decisions of missing people from the comfort of a soft sofa in a warm living room.
I'm not aware of any hard-and-fast rules of mountaineering. All this chatter about minimum weather windows, months to stay off the volcanoes, etc. is just the opinion of the poster, or someone from whom they are borrowing credibility.
Personally, I've continued climbs on days when most people would have turned around, and I've fled on days when many people kept going. I have my own set of rules and guidelines, and also try not to judge others based on them.
So rather than toss out Krakauer-like judgement of these missing folks, let's perhaps send them some good energy (or prayer or whatever you prefer) and hope, collectively, that they'll beat the odds and emerge from this storm cycle unscathed.
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[TR] Rainier - Winthrop (Emmons) 8/18/2012
in Mount Rainier NP
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Hey Clive- thanks for the correction- I've fixed the TR. Amazing that he remembered me from that climb in 2006.
Nice to see you both up there. Sorry the weather went south.