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  1. http://mountainproject.com/v/fs-patagonia-petzl-wild-things-sportiva-evolv-et-al/108051397
  2. Found some gloves at the Morning Glory Wall yesterday. Likely left in the madness over the weekend. Let me know what you lost and where you think you lost it and I'll get it back to you.
  3. Local Pickup preferred, but am willing to Ship. Will price shipping out on a case by case basis. BD O1 Tele bindings and Scarpa T2s. bend.craigslist.org/spo/3457611708.html Cheers, -Max
  4. If anybody took 3 cams (purple tcu, blue Metolius, yellow c3) from the crag bucket at Trout Creek this past week, (you were probably there on Thanksgiving), they're mine and I'd love to get them back! Cheers, Max
  5. Link-up=Topping out CFT and continuing up S. Face of Wilson? No, we didn't consider it as we were looking for a more casual day/I'm kind of lazy. It looks from the summit of CFT like a couple pitches of quality climbing followed by some Vegas ledge-hopping. Probably worth-while if you're psyched to carry over.
  6. Trip: Red Rock and Yosemite - Various. Date: 10/23/2012 Trip Report: Just wrapped up a quick trip to milk the last of summer before the cold came. Highlights were climbing The Warrior in Vegas and The Rostrum in the Valley. (see reflections/beta below) The Warrior: The Warrior's "crux" pitch. This line follows the obvious right-facing corner up the east face of Cactus Flower Tower and is easily one of the most classic routes in Vegas. Approach: The Handren guide says to bushwhack up the drainage up until it funnels you into a gully that you scramble up to the base of the route. As anybody who's spent time trying to bushwhack up a wash before can tell you, this is bad beta. Get on a small spur/ridge climber's left of the gully/wash (hard to see from below, but basically stay on the high ground) and follow a faint trail and infrequent cairns through a short, orange cliff band until you side-hill into the base of the gully. 4th class up the gully (up some low 5th class steps that can be rapped with a single rope on the way down) generally staying to the right side of things. Eventually step left into a final steep scramble up a water-groove that takes you to the base of the route. The approach is long and time-consuming, but surprisingly quick to reverse. (if it's light) Gear: We brought a single rack through a BD #6, 5 #3s, a rack of stoppers, and two ropes. (to rap the route) This was perfect and each pitch was well protected. (or at least as well protected as it was going to be) We brought the wide gear on pitches 1, 3, and 4 and didn't need it anywhere else. The only thing I would have done differently gear/tactics wise would be to bring knee-pads as is recommended by Handren. Pitch 3 (the 10d hand crack chimney) is burly and and it would definitely feel good to have some padding/protection on the knees. Route: It's worth noting that the technical 11a crux is short and comparatively easy beside the 10d burl-fest below it. Come prepared for a battle. More classic climbing high on The Warrior. The Rostrum: Obviously this is a classic route. This was my first real route in Yosemite and take-home points are that, in the valley, the thin climbing is easy and the wide climbing is hard. (but maybe that's just my strenths and weakness talking...) The crux pitch. Approach: we didn't have a guidebook and were fully mountainprojecting it. The beta there is great and all I would add is that you could probably bare-foot the approach. This would slow you down marginally, but it's a short enough route that the time spent would be well rewarded by not having to carry your shoes with you while you climbed. Flip flops might work too. (you'd likely be barefoot anyway on the steeper bits with flops) Dave being birthed by pitch 1. Gear: Single rope, stoppers, (we brought brass and didn't need it) double rack blue TCU to #2, single grey TCU to #5. Perfect. Route: Pitch two has options. Left: 11a face to splitter, straight: 10-(?) flake lieback with hollowish gear, and right: 10- flaring awkwardness. The party in front of us went right and it looked awkward and less fun, so we went left. (straight up looks fine too) It looks like people downclimb 10', traverse, and then reclimb to access the crack. That all seemed complicated at the time, and there are holds if you want to just punch it straight left, so we did. The wide pitch. The only other point of note was that on MP.com the beta says to back clean your #5 and run it out on the last pitch to keep the rope from pushing the gear irretrievably into the crack. Later in the post, someone says that you can solve this problem by extending your anchor to the lip. Our experience found this to be false to due the relationship between the tree's location, the run/angle of the crack, and the amount of roll-over in the top of the formation. Maybe it works for some, but my #5's still there. There were two parties of two from Washington in front of us who we did some anchor sharing with at the cave belay before the last pitch. We ended up with a sling and carabiner of yours, so if you read this, get in touch with me and I'll send it to where ever's convenient! Dinner.
  7. mtep

    BOLTS!!!!

    I don't have anything to contribute to the bolting discussion, but am curious about the Sport-Adventure-Trad spectrum. Summarizing what you've got: Sport=minimal/no gear and bolts every 6' Adventure=average gear and bolts every 15' (presuming this figure based on your word 'average being equidistant between 10' and 20') Trad=ample gear and no bolts. What's missing here is minimal gear opportunities with minimal bolting. (20-40' runouts common) I would define that as adventure climbing and what you call adventure I would usually refer to as a mixed pitch (a route that safely protects with a blend of bolts and gear)
  8. Hah! That's encouraging to hear that we're not the only ones who bumbled up there. We definitely eyed the dyke but were too chicken to see if it would go. Strong work committing to it.
  9. Trip: West Face, North Howser Tower - All Along the Watchtower Date: 8/26/2012 Trip Report: Where to start? This route was a significant one for me on a lot of levels: first grade VI, first time in the Bugs, first planned bivy, first unplanned bivy, and definitely the most committed I've ever been in the mountains. In the end it was an amazing experience with a great partner in one of the wildest settings I've ever been in. It's difficult to communicate the turbulence of thoughts and feelings I experienced during this climb. Anywho, the timeline format seems to work well for TRs and this one starts in April. I was sitting in the St. George Public Library wishing it would stop raining in Zion and learned about the AAC Live Your Dream Grant. I thought "Finally! A grant for us normal people. What's an appropriate objective for that sort of thing and who could I do it with?" (ironically, we didn't end up getting any money...) I'd definitely heard about Watchtower, but had only recently looked at it as anything other than a route that was hopelessly beyond me. In the light of that day it now looked like the perfect objective: definitely a reach, but with minimal potential of being totally crushed by it. I'd cragged with Jonathan a bit at Trout and felt like he was a strong partner who also had a compatible attitude and personality-something pretty important for stepping into bigger terrain. Long story short, I sent him an email: what's your August looking like and what do you think of this route? Months of email exchanges ensued. Jonathan went off to Ashford to walk up and down a hill all summer and I did more or less the same down in Oregon. Things wore on and the likelihood of our schedules aligning simultaneously with eachother's, as well as a forecast that would allow us to tackle this seemed decreasingly likely. By early August, this trip had become an almost forgotten hope in the back of my mind. And then, amazingly, in mid-August I got the email. Things would finally match up for about a week at the end of the month. With the Bugaboo Provincial Park weather forecast loaded as my homepage, I started obsessing over the weather. A week went by and it actually looked like the it might be stable enough for us to push the button. It was happening! 8/23: The goal for the day was to drive from Eugene to Kennewick. In PDX, I got a call from Jonathan with some bad news. It turned out his passport was in storage in Bend. Thankfully someone was able to find it and meet me with it in hand at 10:00PM. What's a few extra hours of driving when you're en route to climb something as awesome as this? 8/24: We met in the REI parking lot and sorted stuff. On the way to Canada we made a quick stop in Spokane to fortify ourselves with frozen mango from Trader Joes. (1 lb for 3 bucks!) Yardsale in the Kennewick REI parking lot. 8/25: Not really knowing what to expect, we had a pretty fluid plan in terms of overall strategy. We weren't sure how the approach would go, so we didn't want to commit to camping at East Creek, the Howser Bivy Boulder, or on the route. In the end, it turns out after walking up and down hill all summer, getting to the B-S Col in two hours was no big deal and it wasn't far to East Creek from there. We faffed around East Creek caching our camping gear in anticipation of bivvying on the route after Pith 3. Jonathan posing down in front of the Kain Hut. Heading down to East Creek Basin. The raps in went smoothly except for a slight core-shot to our lead line sustained while pulling our rope on the second rap. Nothing a bit of athletic tape couldn't fix. (out of site out of mind!) It's worth noting that the basin below the raps is very active in terms of rock fall and large amounts of it were raining down the cirque we had to cross every 10-40 minutes. Jonathan psyched to commit. Our repaired rope at the base of the route. There were also a couple of others on the West Face. Looks like they did Spicy Red Beans to a newer line put up by some locals out of Golden. We started up the line late in the afternoon and just made it to our bivvy in the last light of day. There are some very compelling crack systems that pull you too far left on the face into a dead end. We found a sporty traverse that allowed us to connect our mistake into the left end of our intended ledge just as the light was fading. Thankfully it was a warm night, so cold wasn't much of an issue. Sadly, the ledge was far from deluxe and the real limit on sleep was from general discomfort. Splitter climbing that sadly wasn't part of our line. Tucked in for the night. 8/26: Not much to say other than we woke up and started climbing. Thankfully, it wasn't too cold and the shady western aspect actually offered pretty pleasant temps. We accidentally climbed another bonus pitch up to the ledge underneath Armageddon and had to rap back down to our line. Eventually we worked up into the base of the corner in the early afternoon. The corner was absolutely stellar climbing on splitter rock. The meat of it is rated 11+ and, to be honest, felt like Trout Creek 10+. Slabby lie-backing and stemming all with super good friction. In any case, very good fun on warm, dry rock. (I imagine it'd be a different story if it were wet and/or cold) I gave up on the free effort one pitch below the crux and started french-freeing for speed. Throughout this section of the route and especially on the crux pitch, off-set aliens were absolutely crucial gear. The sun set just after I finished up the crux pitch and Jonathan pulled out the lights before cleaning it. This left us with 250 more feet of corner which we were eventually finished with by 12:30. The beginning of the corner. Fading light below the crux pitch. The forecast had called for a storm to roll in the evening of the 27th and throughout the day a system had been visible far off to the west. That, combined with a dramatic increase in wind in the evening, prompted us to forgo the bivvy and keep pushing up the last 1000' of ridge after a short break. Eventually exhaustion caught up with us a few hundred feet short and we napped for a few hours through very minor flurries of graupel. Thankfully the morning dawned relatively clear and calm and we tagged the summit and headed home. Time to go down. The only other notable event was finding wolverine tracks as we were headed up the Pidgeon-Howser Col over top of the boot track we'd put in coming down the Col only an hour prior. Wild! The Bugs are an amazing place with a massive volume of high quality climbing packed into a very compact zone. I'm definitely psyched to go back! Thanks to Lee (aka luvshaker) for the off-set loan. They were key! Also thanks to Tay for putting up with my beta-mining/pestering as we were hammering out the final details. Gear Notes: 1x 00 and 0 TCUs 3x 1-4 TCUs (including 1 set of off-set aliens) 2x .75-3 C4s 1x 4 C4 Double Set Stoppers + Brass Lightweight crampons and axes. Approach Notes: Surprisingly compact and straight-forward. It's pretty mellow to get from the car to the raps in half a day.
  10. So here's what's really pertinent about this as I see it: 1: The routes on the right side are now 2-5' longer. Lets get a pressure washer and get cranking! 2: Shifting may have resulted in some interesting changes in crack size. Has anybody taken a closer look to see if the cracks from Fat Crack to Limpy (which were the only ones really worth climbing anyway...) are still the same size? Do we have a new handcrack?
  11. The face taken on the way out. The approach was in great shape and we made faster than expected time. The runnels were also in great shape. Psyched! Thanks Eric for the awesome perspectives! Turns out it's really, really slabby...
  12. Trip: Enchantments - Triple Couliors, Der Sportsman, Solid Gold Date: 5/14/2012 Trip Report: I'm sitting on the train headed south down the I5 corridor after six spectacular (and exausting!) days climbing around Washington. Two weeks ago, on a whim, I emailed a friend in Mt. Vernon about his availability and it turned out he had four days. Perfect! I'd find my way north and we'd go do whatever inspired us most that matched current conditions. Thursday: We left Mt. Vernon around four thirty with more gear in the back of his Subaru than we honestly knew what to do with, planning to climb TC on Dragontail Peak the next day. We'd heard rumors that it was in and Thursday night was forecasted to be the last night it would freeze for a while. With that in mind, we found ourselves booting up Mountaineer Creek at 01:00 after three-ish hours of 'sleep'. Friday: Things went well and after enjoying absolutely perfect conditions in the Couliors, runnels, etc., we were basking in the morning sun at the top of the face admiring the sun-drenched and dry South face of Prusik. Up to here, our plan had been to see how things went on Dragontail and go from there. Turned out they were going pretty darn well, so we psyched up for sunny rock in the warming days to come and started the long walk down to the car. Upon our arrival around one, we promptly ate and slept and ate and slept. Saturday: After sleeping in to a leisurely 08:00, we gradually re-packed for rock mode and started booting up the Snow Creek trail. Surprisingly firm snow saw us lounging on a dry slab of granite watching a team of three finish up the south face in the late afternoon sun. Sunday: Finally giving our calves and quads a break, we were racking up at the base of Sportsman after a mellow stroll from camp. The route went smoothly enough after a brief hang on the first pitch. This route had been on my radar for a while after reading and being inspired by various trip reports here. It more than lived up to its reputation, offering pitch after pitch of sustained, steep splitters linked by airy, committing sequences. I neglected to reread the TRs and was using the info in the new Leavenworth Guide. It did an excellent job of preserving the adventurous nature of the route and consistently left me wondering where the heck I was supposed to go. Also, the 5.10 stemming pitch before the headwall is super short. In retrospect, I'd skip the bolted anchor in lieu of a gear anchor higher up to limit the rope drag on the last pitch. Sunday: Another warm morning saw us racking up at the base of Solid Gold, which we took to its junction with the West Ridge, and rapped from there in hopes of finding firmer snow earlier in the day on the hike out. This route is also really good and the info in the guide doesn't always make it clear exactly where is best to stop and belay. That being said, many of these pitches could be linked (I'd nominate three and four) as they're all pretty short. Hiking out we were surprised (and psyched) to find little to no post holing and stable enough slopes for us to sneak back to the car by around 4:30. Photos to be posted in due time. Tuesday and Wednesday: Cragging at Index. Icing on the cake. Gear Notes: TC: screws, pins, stoppers, cams, pickets. Used it all. DS: thin cams and rps for P1 and fingers to thin hands for P6. SG: Double rack w/ RPs for the last pitch. Approach Notes: No flotation! Ran into the ranger hiking down the mountaineer creek road and he indicated that the primary concern was water running on and eroding the road surface. Sounds like it might still be closed.
  13. If you've got more pics, I'd love to see them. If you can email them to mtepfer at gmail that'd be rad. (and yes, we had a blast. That was likely the best four days I've had in the alpine in a long while)
  14. I was on Der Sportsman with a buddy and we took it to the top. It was killer! Such an amazing line. We also ticked Solid Gold the next day and Triple Couliors car to car before heading up to Prusik. I'll post a TR with some pics when I get the chance.
  15. I haven't been up north this year and am headed up on friday. What's it like right now? Skis or boots? Thanks, Max
  16. Forgot Ixtlan and Our Father: Ixtlan's P1 is hard for the grade but well protected. You can walk a #6 up P3 and I wish I had. Our Father is killer. P1 is fun and moderate, P2 has some heads up friction, and the last pitch is beautiful.
  17. Trip: Zion, Red Rock, and St. George Area - Many Date: 4/14/2012 Trip Report: Haven't done the TR thing here in the past, but figured that this might not be a bad time to start. I'm just wrapping up a month of climbing in the desert and what's going to get done has more or less been done. Here's the beta for what we did while it's still fresh(ish) in my mind: Started in Red Rock: La Cierta Edad-Fun, short route. Has rumors of wide climbing, but there really isn't much. (or any really) Mostly typical Vegas 'protect the crack, climb the face' style movement. The last pitch has some excellent varnish on easy rock. Inti Wantana to Res. Arete-Another awesome route. Super well cairned/followable approach. P1 friction feels hard in the cold of an early morning and the P2 crux is one harder, but very well protected move. After that it's nothing but fun, crimp climbing to the top of the pillar where you merge with the Res. Here the quality of the rock and climbing diminishes dramatically. It goes from classic to not-really-so-classic, but is worth it for the top-out. Descending First Creek is definitely the way to do it if you're walking off. It's straightforward, non-technical, and long(!). Rainbow Wall-This route is everything you've heard about it. Go do it. Many of the pitches can be linked and the wall is steep enough that the raps go super-quick. No gear larger than a #2 necessary. (and you really only need 1 ea. of 0.75-2) Dogma-Also really, really good. The approach gets confusing after departing the Res/Inti approach, but is manageable. The start of the route out of Willy's coulior is inobvious, but basically you start the only chimney system up-canyon of a short fixed line not long before the coulior ends. The first pitch should be linked with the second (you probably will anyway) as the bolted station is off to the left of the line and kind of hard to find. (we only did on the descent) On the crux pitch, expect to pull the hardest moves 5-6' above a bomber bolt. We rapped the route to avoid carrying shoes and, despite hearing rumors that it's heinous and long, found it to be relatively casual. It is long, but worth it for the weight savings. For those thinking about onsighting it as a descent from another line, it would be absolutely awful to do in the dark if you didn't know where it went. Especially the lower half. Risky Business/Excellent Adventure-More rad, but heads up climbing. My partner got off route on RB's P3 and belayed at the base of the last pitch of EA. I failed to notice it at the time and ended up sandbagging myself into leading that pitch. It's really good and really scary. Insecure and committing slab climbing above four old bolts leads to a very run-out face. (the guidebook says there's a bolt here, but I never found it, despite spending a lot of time looking) Definitely type 2 fun. Drifting-This route is killer! The approach is long, but well worth it. Make sure you go up the right gully. A party on Jet Stream that day reported that going up the Olive Oil approach gully is horrendous. (as you'd expect) The climbing is exactly as Handren says: sustained, but never really desperate. That being said it is definitely heads up in places and often has a lot of space between gear placements. P2 finishes with a traverse that will put an inexperienced second in tears. Adventure Punks-Also good, but not as classic as I expected. I suspect that I just had really high expectations. That being said, it is really good and totally worth doing. It's also (like everyone says) not for the budding 5.10 leader. Brought a new #6, an old #5, a new #4, a wild country #5, and a rack of stoppers for the last pitch. Never used the 4, but was psyched to have the rest. Didn't feel the need for more gear than that. Heliotrope-Mostly fun. The pitch after it leaves Sunflower is very run-out, but finishes with an awesome stretch of varnish climbing that is literally like climbing a ladder. Lotta Balls/Black Magic-Classic as usual. Epinephrine-Nothing much new to contribute to what's already been said. It's classic. The chimneys are slow. The upper section is fast. One note is that the rappel anchors on the last two pitches have been dismantled and aren't really viable options. (studs and empty holes) So if you're planning on rapping, do it at the base of the 2nd to last pitch before the 4th class ramp. Zion time! Shune's Buttress-So, so good! Splitter crack climbing from bottom to top. We started via the left hand option (which was awesome) and climbed the right hand option for P2. (also likely the better of the two options) P3 (the 10++ wide pitch) spat me off. It's really hard if you try and stack and comparatively easy if you just try to get into a lie-back asap. Brought a WC five for this and it was the perfect piece for the crux. (a four would work too, but I wanted that higher up) With a 70 (or a 60 and some very reasonable simuling) you can link from the top of P2 all the way to the base of the 1st 5.11 pitch up high (at the top of the chimney) in one long(!) pitch. This is definitely the way to do it as the two belays you skip both have terrible stances. When rappelling, rap from the belay at the base of the upper splitter crux. It's out to the side of the main corner and the other option will have you pulling your ropes right into the chimneys. (multiple chopped lines are testaments to why you don't want to do this) Then it rained and snowed a bunch and we cragged around St. George: The Underworld-Funky access to fun columnar basalt. I'd read online that it was comparable to Trout. Not so much. (still good though) Chuckwalla-basically an outdoor gym with all that entails. Super easy access, steep bolted lines, lots of people. The Cathedral/Wailing Wall-Really good, steep limestone. The abundance of perma-draws makes for fun, convenient climbing. This is definitely the place I'll be spending my time waiting for sandstone to dry in the future. Back to Red Rocks: Dream of Wild Turkeys/Sour Mash-I wasn't crazy about Turkeys. It was fun, but maybe not worth all the hype. Sour Mash was the other end of the spectrum: awesome movement on excellent rock. Cloud Tower-Killer. Go do it. It's one of the best routes there. On rappelling: When I did this route last spring we had no problems, but I'd heard of people epic-ing a little bit. This year we had many problems and ended up chopping 20 meters of the end of one of our ropes on the last rap. Rapping with saddle bags might not be a bad idea. Other options would be to top it out and rap Crimson (which is saying something. I wouldn't recommend that over rapping CT lightly as Crimson is usually a massive cluster) or walk off. If I do rap the route again, I won't rap back into the 5.8 pitches (where we had to chop our rope) but directly down the buttress (off the tree that is the back component of the anchor and straight down the buttress). This beta probably makes no sense in this context, but you'll understand when/if you're there. Frigid Air Buttress-Fun climbing. Opting for the squeeze up high in lieu of the stemming sneaker option was fun and very reasonable. We also did a pitch to the right of the line while waiting for the party in front of us to move up. It was fun 5.8/9ish mixed bolts and gear. Photos here:
  18. Trout Creek access update: The BLM has issued the new scoping letter and is accepting public input and ideas on methods to manage conflicts between human user groups and nesting raptors. These comments will be reviewed before the E.A. is prepared, and another comment period will occur post-release. Constructive and site-specific suggestions are considered the most helpful. All comments could become public, including personal information. Emails will be accepted at : BLM_OR_PR_Mail@blm.gov or can be mailed to: 3050 N.E. 3rd St., Prineville, OR 97754 (Attn of: Trout Creek Project) The comment period ends on March 30th. There's an AF-style form letter in the works. Coming soon. More at:www.facebook.com/#!/FriendsofTroutCreek
  19. "have been doing deadhangs, lockoffs, staggered pullups and other shit like that off the fire sprinkler in my room. Maybe 5-10 minutes total exercise time a evening before I crash out for bed." Daily light, low-intesity workout. Possibly for a couple of weeks w/o rest on non-ergonomic pull-up bar. "I did this up till last saturday," Sole rest day. "Sunday ran up to hyalite and climbed (actually more like hanged) my way up a M7 and then after bashing myself in the face a few times with a hammer headed over for a quick lap on elevator shaft, which currently is totally picked out and beaten to shit, so basically just hooked my way up it. went back home, passed out, and woke up monday morning with a screwy left wrist. I haven't done any pullups since, been sporadically popping vitamin I, and taking fish pills religiously." Another day of low-intesity (higher volume?) workout also on non-ergonomic pull-up bars. (aka ice tools) I'm no doc, but it sure sounds like an overuse injury. Especially when you factor in lots of pulling while gripping something in a way that your hand wasn't really designed to grip. I could be wrong, but my understanding was that the 'perfect pull up' hand orientation for us humans was with our palms facing outward at initiation and rotating inward at the apex of the pull-up all while gripping a horizontal element. While I've never done it, doing a done of training from ice tools or ice tool-like grips has never made much sense to me for that reason. (do you really gain that much over training on a horizontal grip?)
  20. Found a pair of shoes with a locking carabiner yesterday on the south side of the Gold Rush staging area. Let me know if they're yours and I'll get them back to you.
  21. Not to mention the fact that climbing is likely the least invasive form of recreation that goes on in the area. Nobody has ever climbed or rapped within meters of the potential nest site and hunters regularly shoot above and below it annually. Not to mention the local kids who show up and trundle rocks from the top of the crag. If the science justifies a closure that's fine, I'll support that. What I can't support is a closure with no science presented to us. Jeff shared the letter he got from the BLM with me last weekend at the crag and their data was laughable. To enact a closure literally a week later based solely on what they shared with us strikes me as a mistake. Especially in the context of the utter lack of transparency on the part of BLM leading up to this decision. Examples: Blake Herrington was only able to communicate with them after calling and leaving message after message over many days. They told him basically that they didn't have a plan yet and were working on it. They took weeks to put together a small amount of data that didn't really demonstrate a whole heck of a lot, told us in the same communication that they were still trying to put together their plan, and closed the crag a week later. This wouldn't have even been on anyone's radar if climbers hadn't heard about it 2nd hand in the first place. In that case we heard "Trout Creek is going to be shut down." Not "we're thinking about a seasonal eagle closure." We pay these peoples' salaries! They exist to inform us as to the best way to use our lands. They aren't informing us. They're telling us. Like I said, I have no problem closing Trout. (nobody thinks that the crag should be closed if it makes sense to the longevity of the Golden Eagle population) The reason I'm frustrated, and I suspect that this is the case with the majority of folks that climb there, is that the BLM has failed to convince us that what they're doing is a good idea. Not even. They haven't even really tried!
  22. Tyler, lots of people who feel very strongly about this issue know Cassandra personally. (myself not includd) How nice a person she is changes nothing about the fact that the BLM acted extremely unprofessionally in their handling of this matter. We're all nice people in some way and we all screw up in others. Somebody screwed this up good.
  23. 1. Date: 1/27-28 2. Trout Creek/Smith Rock 3. Eugene 4. 1-just me 5. I've got room in my truck for one more and am coincidentally also looking for partners. Shoot me an email at mtepfer at gmail.com.
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