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bingo!

fighting is not heroic by nature. only in very very rare instances,

we are witnessing the passing of three heroes. god bless their soul.

to climb is heroic by nature. like prayer and meditation. the moment one of does it we all benefit. hillary is a hero and not mallory? or tensing.?or these three great guys? ,

we learn as much by following this (if you do your home work) and try to piece it together with everything you know and learn here, than reading a book. for climbers that is.... to outsider it may appear useless .....

we learn as much by following this (if you do your home work) and try to piece it together with everything you know and learn here, than reading a book. for climbers that is.... to outsider it may appear useless .....

to climb is heroic.

we all do what we do for ourselves. that's my point. and to question these climbers at this time is really low.

whattabout all those selfish soldiers?

too easy !!!!! come on growup!

plausible to me.i think wampler said they found 3 axes total.

now that's a lie!!!!!!!

maybe before and after pics? or he lost it walking to burma .....

buddha had a big belly,krisna was blue ,christ got nailed,aurobindo got jailed for planting a bumb,and these guys got lost.........

only you can!?

those climbers had faith ,,, their family had faith,,, hell i had faith.....now we all have surrender to baby jesus's dad. the Supreme.

amen!

i posted a couple thangs yesterday and was rolling with the baby jesus comments. i was surprised to get pulled for that. nothing disrespectful just humourous. 2nd guessing climbers, now that's sucks. mattb gotta b christian defence league .....

thanks ! i wish it was up last week .

they have to keep legal chain of command local/state /mil etc, but the 'head' delegates and uses all assets. its all about speed though your right. the pilot of c130 said on phone that " we could not pick heat signature from them because they were in a cave so i was circling evenly so they could predict my next pass and come out or make 'heat' sign. we could have picked a match or lighter or headlamp.....'

yeah i saw that too .i think you are right. unfor i did not record

i just heard they found nothing on south side

one thing i just remembered from yesterday and i had the same experience is that after spending 3-4 days in cave 1 kelly may have come out to make himself visible when he heard choppas.i speculate on this only to highlight another danger. i did that once and they did not see me, and i took risks because i wanted out!i spent a 5th nite foodless on snow.risks are everywhere , you have to see them.

one thing i just remembered from yesterday and i had the same experience is that after spending 3-4 days in cave 1 kelly may have come out to make himself visible when he heard choppas.i speculate on this only to highlight another danger. i did that once and they did not see me, and i took risks because i wanted out!i spent a 5th nite foodless on snow.risks are everywhere , you have to see them.

well said. for info on mountaineering nubs can get books or if one doesn't understand light and fast 'for real' ,read twight's book.