the world is calling them irresponsible risk takers who have wasted our tax dollars. us as climbers know and repsect those than anyone else out there because we have had similar experiences. yes i don't know them personally, but i'm sure i have roped up with other climbers just like these guys. we support those climbers and realize their suffering, and realize that shit happends. i don't know about you, but if i were those climbers i would wish that you stop replaying these series of events over and over. nothing worst than hearing how i fucked up from someone who is ignorant to the truth.it was there time and they are in gods hands now. so take your soap box elsewhere.