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Just sent you a pm Caleb

Thanks for your TR Blake! Grateful to hear your knowledge of the WA pass climbing many years ago on that hitchhike ride. We had no idea we were about to try a route on M&M Wall until you led us to that info in the Beckey Guide. It was only this big scary adventure to a cave in the middle of a big alpine wall. We finally had a name for it! I am psyched to hear this route has seen some traffic. Your descriptions and length of pitches seem spot on. On our attempts, Arden linked pitch 3 and 4 to make a 55m pitch which felt like 11 for me personally. Top of P4 is a hanging belay with a pin and stopper. Hope to add belay bolts soon. I especially appreciate the photo of the corner on P2, great perspective and great rock! As you summed up, this route is no problem for the average 5.10 climber of which, I am a member. Thank you for the clarity on the difficulty of each pitch. Arden had no problem sending these pitches, but this was a big step for my 1st ascent resume. Things are certainly more terrifying and exciting when you have no idea what lies ahead.. The headwall above P6 looks amazing, hope someone sends this rig by climbing the big corner high on the wall. We climbed out left of the cave for a pitch of 5.11, then two short 5.8ish pitches up obvious corners to the top of the wall. from summit, hike the ledge system west to gully then down to packs. Big Thanks to Jim L. and Mead H. who sent this wall forty years ago... Bold and inspirational. Thanks again Blake!

Gimli is a great route and in a league of it's own. I think lion tamer is shorter and more sustained in difficulty. It is steeper and obviously less traveled, but I think it was absolutely just as memorable and a BLAST!. If you find and stay on the climbers trail, the approach is much less traveled than Gimli but the length and elevation gain are about the same. As leeareden pointed out, all the info we had about this climb and approach, we pulled from this post, which added to the adventure factor. Thanks to Jeff and Joe for motivating us to get out there and enjoy this beautiful place. We plan to return this month to sample the south face chimney or ??? And will let mcallboater know about the 1938 FA.

Climbed zenith last sunday. Attempted last couple of years, considerably better ice this year! Climbed far left, getting fairly wet but oh so worth it.

I did it a cople of years ago.